The Politics Thread

[Wendy]

On another note as it is after midnight on the east coast...

I cannot fathom it will be 23 years as of 8:46 a.m. since the most horrible attack on US soil. May the victims of 9/11 continue to rest in eternal peace.

YouTube has a mega-episode uploaded taken from the heartbreaking, brilliant documentary, "9/11: One Day In America" to watch (if some here do not have Disney Plus/Hulu for the whole 6 parts). As awful as it is, it's also worth the watch.

By the way, one of the men interviewed, Ron Clifford, an Irish-American that lost his sister and niece as they were on the plane that hit the South Tower, and the same man that helped victim Jennieann Mefeo before she, too, would die weeks later, has - from what I read - died himself last December. I can only hope he was reunited with them and all other 9/11 victims.

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Edited September 11, 2024 by Wendy

[Vee]

 

[Vee]

 

Politico admits it:

 

[I Am A Swede]

I can't think of better news to start the day with!    

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It sounds like the debate went better than I even dared hope, and then Taylor Swift's endorsement as icing on the cake. 

[BetterForgotten]

Please let January’s debut of the first network daytime soap created by a black woman coincide with the inauguration of the first US black woman president…..

[Vee]

Dionne Warwick gets the last word:

 

 

[Maxim]

Woke up to see Trump finally put in his place. Brava Kamala Harris! 

[Toups]

Amen!!!

[DramatistDreamer]

As someone who was living and going to university in Manhattan in 2001, I know full well what a day like today September 11th is about. I really don’t wish, nor do I need to see any documentaries on the subject because I clearly remember the smell of burning jet fuel and burning flesh pervading the air. I remember the plumes of smoke in the distance and feeling marooned from the rest of the world as phone lines and most communication was cut. The sounds of fighter jets patrolling the skies, especially at night. And every year, I revisit that trauma, which has been getting less and less every few years. A couple years ago, I finally decided to wean myself off watching hours and hours of the reading of the names of the people killed on that day. The days, weeks and months riding the subway wondering if something tragic could happen while feeling sorry for any woman wearing a hijab, man in a takiyah or any Brown person who might immediately be marked as a threat with one glance. Lower Manhattan has never been the same place in my eyes, no matter how much work has gone into a makeover.

Might I suggest we be sensitive to the possibility that not everyone has the same experience of that day and it may not be edifying or healthy to watch curated documentaries of it? It may be a must watch for some but it won’t be for me.

[Marco Dane]

If you find yourself believing anything that Donald Trump said last night, I strongly encourage you to take a step back and seriously evaluate your state of mind. It may be worth considering scheduling a thorough mental health assessment at your nearest hospital or with a licensed professional. Misinformation and emotional manipulation can have profound effects on our thinking, and it’s important to ensure that you’re processing information critically and staying grounded in reality. Taking care of your mental well-being is essential, especially in times when truth and facts are being distorted

[JaneAusten]

Thank you for sharing this.  It says so much about the trauma many who lived through this are still experiencing. My niece lives and works in NYC for the Health Department. She's lived there for 16 years - loves it. When the Peace Tower was completed, there were problems getting tenants. You likely know this already. There was talk that part of the health department would move there. She knew so many native New Yorkers who worked there who said they would not go there and would quit if their department(s) moved there. And as you said, the trauma is still there. Also, there are many New Yorkers who still have not been to the Museum on the site nor at the site itself, it's that haunting.

Now in the times we are in, it's especially touching that you are slowly getting beyond the trauma of those days.  In some ways the vile and hate we are experiencing in pockets of this country today are a reminder to some of the bile spewed towards many of our fellow residents from that day who were equally if not more traumatized. Take care of yourself and I pray that we can come to a time where all of us can move forward together with respect, hope, and peace.

[Liberty City]

Thanks for this. I only have small memories of 9/11. whew.

Of course one of them looks like a total Karen.

[Vee]

I remember 9/11 well. My parents worked in downtown D.C., my mother very close to the Pentagon and I spent hours trying to get ahold of them and make sure they were alright. I'll never forget but I rarely choose to relive it except on my own terms. At this point I try to treat the date, not the event, as just another day when it rolls around.

To that point, media reaction to the debate:

 

 

Unlike most papers the Post strains to thread the needle (merely admitting Harris was 'fiery' and put Trump 'on the defensive'), but admits in the op-eds what happened:

Even Glenn Kessler admits defeat:

 

[j swift]

My favorite thread response from last night was

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[Khan]

Frankly, I had every confidence that Kamala Harris would emerge victorious in last night's debate.  If I've learned anything from being around Black women all my life, it's that they know their [!@#$%^&*] and dare you to come for them.

And even if it were true that immigrants are eating pets - AND IT IS NOT TRUE - what does that say about this country and our ability to feed every individual who lives here?

Edited September 11, 2024 by Khan