OMG @marceline. Those ads look like the ads that those ambulance chasing law firms used to put on television. Maybe not Giuliani level lazy but it sounds like Turner ran a very poor campaign. Thanks for giving a summary. 
 

 

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

A reminder:

Reading this reminded me of the time Y&R's Christine and Danny tried to help a "crack mother" see the error of her ways.  I realize Bill Bell and Kay Alden had the best of intentions with that story; nevertheless, something about it has always left a bitter taste in my mouth.

38 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

OMG @marceline. Those ads look like the ads that those ambulance chasing law firms used to put on television.

IKR?  I kept expecting to see someone pop up on screen and say, "This is my wreck - and Nina Turner got me my check!".

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Reading this reminded me of the time Y&R's Christine and Danny tried to help a "crack mother" see the error of her ways.  I realize Bill Bell and Kay Alden had the best of intentions with that story; nevertheless, something about it has always left a bitter taste in my mouth.

IKR?  I kept expecting to see someone pop up on screen and say, "This is my wreck - and Nina Turner got me my check!".

Man, am I glad to have missed those episodes of Y&R, that sounds disastrous.

15 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Man, am I glad to have missed those episodes of Y&R, that sounds disastrous.

Like I said, I'm sure Bell/Alden had the best intentions - and I give them props, too, for not making the "crack mother," Nan, a WOC AND for having the courage to show viewers actual "crack babies" being cared for at the hospital.  But, to me, it also seemed to reinforce some conservative attitudes toward poor women who have the misfortune of becoming pregnant while strung out on a drug that was literally robbing this country of an entire generation in the '80s and '90s.  (And Christine's constantly spouting stats straight outta some pamphlet or textbook didn't help matters either.)

20 minutes ago, Khan said:

Like I said, I'm sure Bell/Alden had the best intentions - and I give them props, too, for not making the "crack mother," Nan, a WOC AND for having the courage to show viewers actual "crack babies" being cared for at the hospital.  But, to me, it also seemed to reinforce some conservative attitudes toward poor women who have the misfortune of becoming pregnant while strung out on a drug that was literally robbing this country of an entire generation in the '80s and '90s.  (And Christine's constantly spouting stats straight outta some pamphlet or textbook didn't help matters either.)

Just that "we" were using terms like "crack baby" is disgraceful.

 

Speaking of which this idiot was trying to incite a jihad by committing war crimes.

 

19 minutes ago, Khan said:

Like I said, I'm sure Bell/Alden had the best intentions - and I give them props, too, for not making the "crack mother," Nan, a WOC AND for having the courage to show viewers actual "crack babies" being cared for at the hospital.  But, to me, also seemed to reinforce some conservative attitudes toward poor women who have the misfortune of becoming pregnant while strung out on a drug that was literally robbing this country of an entire generation in the '80s and '90s.  (And Christine's constantly spouting stats straight outta some pamphlet or textbook didn't help matters either.)

It has always been my contention that CBS was the most conservative of the networks, particularly during the daytime and Y&R was the most conservative of the daytime dramas. As brilliant as WJB Sr. was in building a brand that created these shows that have endured, I must admit that I believe that him being a straight white man with a wife and children fit the ideal of who CBS wanted to make the face of their daytime serials and promoted as such.

14 hours ago, Juliajms said:

Just that "we" were using terms like "crack baby" is disgraceful.

It is.  I agree.  That's why I used parentheses.  I probably shouldn't have used the term at all, though.

14 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It has always been my contention that CBS was the most conservative of the networks, particularly during the daytime and Y&R was the most conservative of the daytime dramas.

Which is ironic, when you consider how, at least in the beginning, Y&R was very racy compared to other soaps.

14 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

As brilliant as WJB Sr. was in building a brand that created these shows that have endured, I must admit that I believe that him being a straight white man with a wife and children fit the ideal of who CBS wanted to make the face of their daytime serials and promoted as such.

Which is why I call bullshit on a certain poster's revelation in another thread that CBS had asked him to create an all-Black soap in '73 or whenever.  No way.  Not in 1973, not at CBS, and definitely not with William J. Bell.

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37 minutes ago, Khan said:

It is.  I agree.  That's why I used parentheses.  I probably shouldn't have, though.

Which is ironic, when you consider how, at least in the beginning, Y&R was very racy compared to other soaps.

Which is why I call bullshit on a certain poster's revelation in another thread that CBS had asked him to create an all-Black soap in '73 or whenever.  No way.  Not in 1973, not at CBS, and definitely not with William J. Bell.

Hm, I would have to see some documented proof on a statement like that.

Had that statement been made about Agnes Nixon that would have been more believable. We already know there were reports that Irna Phillips wanted a daytime soap with a majority Black cast.

To be fair though, it feels like the Reagan years of the mid 1980s could have been when it felt like this push became a thing. And when Y&R became the #1 soap in the late 80s, that further cemented things. Looking back, I do think Y&R got a nice helping of PR to help that drive. Bell being the show’s creator also likely made him appealing in a way that, perhaps, the other show runners weren’t.

Anyway, sorry for taking this thread off topic.

We all knew the quest to overturn Roe v. Wade would be the tip of the iceberg.

Greg Abbott reveals the GOP’s plan after killing Roe v. Wade: Killing public education. https://t.co/u8Y0P4LrbG

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) May 5, 2022

Greg Abbott always looks as if he's made another poopie in his pants.

@marceline was right: this country cannot survive minority rule.  Sooner or later, it's all gonna end in bloodshed.

On 5/4/2022 at 6:50 PM, DRW50 said:

A video is going around showing Miss Madison, naked, humping another guy's face. Madison claims this was years ago and was two friends joking (ladies, if your man is humping another man while naked, then unless you're in on it, I'd say it's not a good sign!)

This is one of those cases where I said it would happen and I wish I'd been wrong, both because nobody needs to see that and because it's just further normalizing homophobia. It's obvious that this is just going to escalate. He is the  dumbest kind of moron - the one who believes he is indestructible.  That means a  paper trail. I imagine even more is out there and it will keep coming unless he drops out of office. 

You must have ESP.😂

I will say his humping is a 5 at best. His cowa mumba noise making during it was annoying.

Nice backside but I can see why his wife got bored rather quickly.😂

2 hours ago, Khan said:

Greg Abbott always looks as if he's made another poopie in his pants.

@marceline was right: this country cannot survive minority rule.  Sooner or later, it's all gonna end in bloodshed.

I need to move to a more friendly state. Abbott is nuts!! The guy is pure evil.

 

I know how crass this sounds but...

...the reality is that being an reproductive rights sanctuary state will be good for the bottom line. 

Abortion is good for business on a lot of levels. That's an economic truth that people don't want to discuss.

Ned Lamont is running for re-election this year also, but this is part of a continuing effort to solidify abortion rights in “The Constitution State”. Yes, it is known as The Constitution State.

Elections in Ireland and Scotland and the bare minimum of reporting from the BBC.

The SNP finishes as biggest party in Scottish council elections - with Labour in second after the Conservatives suffer big losseshttps://t.co/CPjNN1zMO1

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) May 6, 2022