1 minute ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I hope Manchin and Sinema's constituents continue to hound them

Same here. I'm just tired of hearing about them and seeing them on TV. This could have been done weeks ago but for them. 😡😡😡😡😡

I'm going to need to hear from more than just the hawks beating the war drums on social media in regards to the escalation of conflict between Taiwan and China.

The FB whistleblower is set to testify before Congress today:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/10/05/tech/facebook-whistleblower-testify/index.html

20 hours ago, Vee said:

Mm, that's not true in the slightest, but I did tell you months ago that you would automatically dismiss this bill's passage if it ever went below 3.5 (actually, you used to insist it be 6 trillion in order to count). And that's exactly what you're doing, preemptively, because all you ever do is concern troll about Democrats. Every time you've been wrong you've moved the goalposts. You don't care what's in the bill. That's okay though, we'll educate you in the coming days anyway. Enjoy!

In addition to deflecting and burying the lede, you're making stuff up because I never said anything about the bill being six trillion dollars in order to count. If I did, you should have no trouble finding it. You said I don't care about what is in bills either but you went BSC when I brought the $15 minimum wage being left off the table, and the issues with the reduction  and ending of  unemployment benefits. To their credit, the Democrats are attempting to address the unemployment situation with this bill. 

You don't have to "educate" me either. I'm good.  I go on other site's political forums too such as the one I will post a link of. I would say it is mostly liberal but there's posters from the various types of the political spectrum. From the alt right to the f--k both the Dems and Pubs types.

https://www.thecoli.com/forums/higher-learning.12/

 

I hope the Democrats don't "just get mad" at Manchin & Sinema, but actually get even with them holding up the entire platforms.  There has to be many ways to put the screws to them when this is finally over.

1 hour ago, Ponds said:

I hope the Democrats don't "just get mad" at Manchin & Sinema, but actually get even with them holding up the entire platforms.  There has to be many ways to put the screws to them when this is finally over.

The fewer times we have to hear their names after this, the better. They are no heroes.

3 hours ago, Ponds said:

I hope the Democrats don't "just get mad" at Manchin & Sinema, but actually get even with them holding up the entire platforms.  There has to be many ways to put the screws to them when this is finally over.

Ideally, they should do both, as one tends to precede the other. I'm talking anger in terms of righteous indignation.

As I was saying:

And to be clear, sivad, I told you you'd dog any reconciliation bill that wasn't six trillion dollars. I was being clear on my statement, and I 100% stand by it. I'm proven right above about Biden's topline above and you'll ignore it, too.

19 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Ideally, they should do both, as one tends to precede the other. I'm talking anger in terms of righteous indignation.

Agreed.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

As I was saying:

 

I've checked out on all the haggling. I'm just going to hope for the best. Part of the reason I voted for Biden was so I didn't have to follow every development in Washington like some macabre reality show.

45 minutes ago, marceline said:

I've checked out on all the haggling. I'm just going to hope for the best. Part of the reason I voted for Biden was so I didn't have to follow every development in Washington like some macabre reality show.

Agreed, plus I didn't want every Presidential press conference to be a personal grievance airing.

29 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Agreed, plus I didn't want every Presidential press conference to be a personal grievance airing.

Biden spoke today, as I understand but I didn't tune in. I'm glad he's not ratings obsessed like the other one. 

Here's the kind of story to make everyone feel good...falling out of the Forbes 400...😊😊😊😊😊

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/05/1043334210/donald-trump-forbes-400

I've been waiting for this.

If ANYTHING requires support from those two DINOs, forget it. It's already toast. Not just pessimism, but knowing their record/history thus far of obstruction...