1 hour ago, Roman said:

but she, along with Mika & Joe and the majority pushed these very same lies in the run up. now none of them act like they should take any responsibility for their part in this mess.

 

Truth.

We're extremely lucky this administration is as incompetent as it is insane. If this was a team on par with the Rove/Cheney/etc. crew in its prime and we still didn't have social media, it'd be far worse.

 

As for Wallace, Joe Scarborough and Mika, I haven't forgotten anything they've done. But in desperate times I feel you go with the enemy of your enemy when they still show some basic principles. Wallace in particular had the common sense to deeply regret her work with Palin even before the 2008 campaign ended. (IIRC she didn't vote.)

2 hours ago, Roman said:

but she, along with Mika & Joe and the majority pushed these very same lies in the run up. now none of them act like they should take any responsibility for their part in this mess. 

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/watch-noblesville-shooting-survivors-protest-nra-recruiters-set-tent-following-friday-school-attack/

Lord.

 

Fortunately for me, it's been years since I last subscribed to cable so I've never actually seen an episode of Wallace's MSNBC show and it's been about eight years since I've seen a full episode of Morning Joe. I don't doubt that they've all been complicit in underplaying Trump's vileness, like most of the MSM.

 

That clip stood out to me because in today's mainstream media landscape, it seems so rare.

Edited May 26, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

9 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Fortunately for me, it's been years since I last subscribed to cable so I've never actually seen an episode of Wallace's MSNBC show and it's been about eight years since I've seen a full episode of Morning Joe. I don't doubt that they've all been complicit in underplaying Trump's vileness, like most of the MSM.

 

That clip stood out to me because in today's mainstream media landscape, it seems so rare.

and isn't that the biggest problem? that it is rare. I used to tune in to get some news, facts and truth. now it's "which side will give us the bigger ratings?" and they whore themselves to that side. if a Dem gets in there in 2 years watch and see the pendulum go in the opposite direction. 

Edited May 26, 20187 yr by Roman

I cannot believe this [!@#$%^&*] about them "losing" almost 1,500 kids. Bitch, you didn't lose them. You sold them into the sex trade. 

Many people might not know about this massacre but since I attended high school in the early 90s with a guy whose family fled during El Salvador's civil war, I am familiar with these brutal events that occurred during the Reagan administration.

 

Survivors of Massacre Ask: ‘Why Did They Have to Kill Those Children?’

 

Although the Clinton administration declassified many of the records, people in El Salvador believe that declassifying more records may give more information about who in the Salvadoran military's chain of command might be responsible for this massacre.  After all, under Reagan, the U.S. trained the Salvadoran military and often funded them.

Like often is the case when military who commit heinous acts have ties to the U.S., the generals often get asylum in the U.S. as Gen. Garcia did in 1990. 

I'm glad that the Obama administration decided to deport Gen. Garcia back to El Salvador though because now he may actually have to answer for his crimes.

 

 

Adding Link:

This jaw-dropping piece by @jonathanvswan about WH comms officials accusing each of leaking in front of Trump is like a scene out of "Death of Stalin.'' What's next?https://t.co/sJAo9nE6qy

— Stephen Engelberg (@SteveEngelberg) May 27, 2018

I'd laugh if it weren't so damn serious.

British government trying to keep Trump out of London during his upcoming visit for fear of riots: plan is he'd meet PM May at Checquers, official country house; Queen at Windsor Castle (no Buckingham Palace); other stops anywhere but London.
h/t Politico London Playbook

— Elizabeth Drew (@ElizabethDrewOH) May 28, 2018

This is so messed up.

 

Let's give a Bronx cheer for the Susan Sarandons of the U.S. who thought Hillary would've been worse than Trump.  Someone should barrage her social media with images like those.

 

 

 

This is insane, by the way.

 

A pilot and his assistant have been arrested in Northern California, accused of kidnapping and attempting to deport a Chinese flight student https://t.co/grru9kMoTh

— CNN (@CNN) May 28, 2018

Edited May 28, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

On 5/25/2018 at 7:17 PM, DRW50 said:

 

Much of that criticism ramped up through the propaganda surrounding the Iraq War and the vicious smearing of Democrats. There was surgical precision of these types of games from Karl Rove. Then the anti-equality legislation and the anti-abortion legislation started. I remember one of the big controversies surrounding W and Hitler was when Move On had ads comparing them (I think someone submitted the ads for a contest). There's one on Youtube but it's on a far right channel.

I remember Bush's " You  are either with us or you're against us" quote that riled up his base and the media to go after anybody that was against the Iraq war. I remember  The Right destroying and going after anything of French origin  because France was against the Iraq war (French fries being renamed Freedom Fries, pouring French wine into rivers, etc). Bush's attempt to privatize Social Security. Country radio stations censoring the Dixie Chicks because they didn't support the Iraq War and they attacked Bush. The Right using the Scott Peterson trial (he murdered his wife and unborn child) as a means to pass anti-abortion laws. I could go and on about W but I will stop right there.

Ivanka Trump gets six new Chinese trademarks a week or so after Trump announced that he would help 'save' ZTE (a Chinese company that has been seen as a national security threat).  Especially interesting, given Trump's previous tweets about not doing any new "deals" during his administration.

 

When conflict of interest goes hand in hand with corruption.

This is why I always wish people would stop and think before they retweet and get angry - I saw those photos going around and people would try to point out they were from the Obama-era administration but they still kept going around anyway. All this does is just undercut the horrible way that Trump treats and speaks about immigrants. 

 

I'm not surprised about King and Linda Sarsour, but I thought the other guy would have known better.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/29/trump-border-immigrant-children-cages-photo-610039

 

The photograph in question began to circulate online over the weekend, shared by Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau and activists Shaun King and Linda Sarsour, among others. It shows two children lying on green mats on a concrete floor behind a chain-link fence. The photo was taken by The Associated Press and was published by The Arizona Republic in 2014 as part of a photo gallery. Favreau later deleted his tweet.

3 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Ivanka Trump gets six new Chinese trademarks a week or so after Trump announced that he would help 'save' ZTE (a Chinese company that has been seen as a national security threat).  Especially interesting, given Trump's previous tweets about not doing any new "deals" during his administration.

 

When conflict of interest goes hand in hand with corruption.

 

I wonder if this is why Wilbur Ross (presumably without his Coke can) is now joining their trade negotiations even though they see him as worthless. It will be a big wet kiss and we will get nothing. Meanwhile we will probably continue to alienate our actual allies like Germany or France.

Edited May 29, 20187 yr by DRW50