1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

I think she'd be a very good President - she's always seemed incredibly intelligent and has good survival skills - but I think her support would be overestimated, mostly because white female voters have shown they will vote for any Republican any time, and I doubt white men will have much support for her. Oprah running would also make it easy for the media to stay in their bubble, which is one of the reasons they were so helpful to Trump in 2015 and 2016.

April Ryan  was on CNN earlier saying that we've entered an age where it's not enough to be a politician. Americans now want a rock star and the entertainment that comes from that.  Jesus help us if that's true.

 

I can't begin to predict how much support Oprah would have.  She has that certain something and as far as I can see white women love her.  I even like her, even though I hate the kind of lifestyle guru thing she has represented at times. "Live your best life". I have no patience with that kind of thing.

 

That said,  I would surely take her over the likes of Mark Cuban. Still, it's deeply disturbing to me that we are on the edge of being directly ruled by one billionaire after the next.

 

 

4 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I think that underestimates Oprah Winfrey. Sure it's cult of personality at this point, but she is entirely self made and successful. She lived in poverty, was abused as a teenager, and went on to likely be the most successful woman in media.  She's an entrepreneur, a CEO, a humanitarian, and an activist. I'm not confident she'd run and running for president would change a lot of things for her, does she want that. Putting all that aside I think she'd be great. She's relatable and based on her upbringing and her own experiences, empathy has been her strongest trait IMO. And she's also intelligent and as Carl said a survivor. 

I question the empathy of any human being with a billion dollars.  Seriously ask yourself if you could feel comfortable having a billion dollars when there are children starving to death. I think at this point she has no idea how real people live. Remember that road trip she did?

54 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Remember that road trip she did?

 

Hoo-boy.  

4 hours ago, Juliajms said:

I'm not sure what to think about all this talk of Oprah being our next president.  Part of me balks at another unqualified billionaire being elected due to a cult of personality. Another part of me thinks it would be a good thing to break the barrier of a black women becoming president. Anything is better than another four years of Trump.

 

Please. Not another "celebrity".

 

As a person, I like Oprah. She really is an American success story, overcoming abuse and, let's face it, racial barriers to be one of the most influential women today. But after this nightmare, we need someone with experience to clean up the mess.

 

And, much loathed as I am to say this, I think Oprah could give us four more years of this because if a white woman being president scares the establishment - and the sexists and racists - no way would a black woman get there without a fight. And I think we could have another 2016, where people vote for the imbecile not because they like him, but because they hate the other candidate more. No, thanks.

 

For the love of God, there must be a qualified experienced politician out there for the Democrats. Everyone cites his age, but if we can have old Orange Foolius and Reagan, I'd love it if Biden did run.

Edited January 8, 20187 yr by Wendy

21 minutes ago, Wendy said:

 

Please. Not another "celebrity".

 

As a person, I like Oprah. She really is an American success story, overcoming abuse and, let's face it, racial barriers to be one of the most influential women today. But after this nightmare, we need someone with experience to clean up the mess.

 

And, much loathed as I am to say this, I think Oprah could give us four more years of this because if a white woman being president scares the establishment - and the sexists and racists - no way would a black woman get there without a fight. And I think we could have another 2016, where people vote for the imbecile not because they like him, but because they hate the other candidate more. No, thanks.

 

For the love of God, there must be a qualified experienced politician out there for the Democrats. Everyone cites his age, but if we can have old Orange Foolius and Reagan, I'd love it if Biden did run.

Mostly I agree with you, but HRC wasn't just any white woman.  She is the subject of a very effective, decades long hit job by the right.

 

Like you I don't want another celebrity/billionaire.  This cannot be the new normal, although I fear that it is.  It's really stunning to hear people say the same things that qualified Trump qualifies Oprah. Just because you can make a ton of money does not mean you are qualified to run the government. If Trump didn't teach us that lesson I guess we just can't be taught.
 

I think Oprah could be really good. She actually cares about people. If this is going to be the norm, I'd choose her over anyone else.

 

2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

I think Oprah could be really good. She actually cares about people. If this is going to be the norm, I'd choose her over anyone else.

 

I'll have to agree with you there.  If we are going to submit to rule by oligarch, it may as well be Oprah. At least we can be sure she's not a psychopath.

I think she'd get a lot done. Andy Richter said on twitter "Why would someone living the life Oprah does, want to be President"

 

 

1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

"Why would someone living the life Oprah does, want to be President"

 

Exactly.  She does so much more good NOW, being what she is, than she would as president.  Plus, unlike Trump, Oprah is savvy enough to know her brand might not necessarily survive four years in the WH.

This is an interesting take, and one not enough people are discussing.

 

“Oprah’s speech—in my hearing—wasn’t about why she needs to run for office. It was about why the rest of us need to do so, immediately.” @Dahlialithwick nails it. https://t.co/aP3iuqmcX4

— Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) January 8, 2018

25 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Exactly.  She does so much more good NOW, being what she is, than she would as president.  Plus, unlike Trump, Oprah is savvy enough to know her brand might not necessarily survive four years in the WH.

Plus why give up your freedom and subject yourself to all that scrutiny? There are so many reasons for a person in her position not to though. I'd be damned if I'd put up with people's bullsh*t if I were her. 

 

Also, would she divest herself of her empire? I wonder if one of 45's lasting legacies is that presidents will no longer feel the need to rid themselves of all those conflicts of interest. 

 

If taxpayers are footing the bill for Kellyanne and Sarah's MUAs, I don't want to hear another Trump supporter claim that I have no right to critique their poorly-done makeup jobs.

 

The Trump team, including Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kelly Conway, have a full-time makeup artist funded by taxpayer dollars on staff https://t.co/UjQ1KL2ITN

— The Cut (@TheCut) January 9, 2018

14 hours ago, Khan said:

 

Exactly.  She does so much more good NOW, being what she is, than she would as president.  Plus, unlike Trump, Oprah is savvy enough to know her brand might not necessarily survive four years in the WH.

 

What amazes me is that people want her to run when what she really should do is start a Super PAC. Maybe team up with Tom Steyer who has pledged $30 million dollars to help flip the House. Citizens United says that money is speech.

42 minutes ago, marceline said:

What amazes me is that people want her to run when what she really should do is start a Super PAC.

 

YES.  The GOP has the Koch brothers and the Mercers on THEIR side.  Why not have some heavy-hitters (no pun intended) with deep pockets on the OTHER side?  You fight money WITH money.

15 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

If taxpayers are footing the bill for Kellyanne and Sarah's MUAs, I don't want to hear another Trump supporter claim that I have no right to critique their poorly-done makeup jobs.

 

 

Wow, and yet they still look like someone took a dump on their faces. 

 

As the saying goes, you can put a pig in a dress and pearls, but at the end of the day it's still just a pig. 

 

Edited January 9, 20187 yr by Gray Bunny

Speaking of creatures who are just yuck...Joe Arpaio is running for Senate??!