Jump to content

The Politics Thread


Toups

Recommended Posts

  • Members

 

I don't think they personally would want to hang around Trump, but I think they see the Clintons as old, tired, and aloof, and Trump and his insanity as fresh (and ratings). There's a real glee when they talk about negative stories for Hillary while with Trump they're often more guarded and regretful. It's only surrogates who are allowed to be outspoken in belittling Trump, and even that's limited, as some networks happily employ people who work for his campaign. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 45.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Vee

    6816

  • DRW50

    5988

  • DramatistDreamer

    5521

  • Khan

    3459

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Members

I don't discount some of the glee, but I think a lot of them are absolutely terrified and/or contemptuous of Trump. You need only look at yesterday's grassroots twitter movement on behalf of Katy Tur, who Trump continues to abuse and single out at rallies by urging his audiences to attack her. Some journalists are more glib than others as they're in the bubble. And yes, CNN's handling of Lewandowski vs. Brazile is beyond the pale. But there's a difference between the media's glib disconnect from realities and traditional conservative lean - which causes them to cluck about any Democratic win as "not a mandate" so don't get happy, liberals - versus how they've reacted to Trump.

 

The media has gotten more liberal, albeit very slowly with fits and starts, over the last 15 years, and I think most of them are horrified by him. The problem is that it's their bubble and bias that took them this long to stop treating him as just another GOP candidate and more as a horrific nightmare, and now you see most of them still trying to pimp a horse race because that is always the morning order from their producers to save their weekly numbers. But do I think most of the coverage on CNN or MSNBC is favorable to Trump in the last month-plus? No.

 

Meanwhile: Deadspin on Donald Trump's treatment of Donald Jr.

Edited by Vee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Thanks for all the replies about Georgia and North Carolina. I always forget about the rural areas in places like that and that they're way more heavily populated than our rural areas.

 

Sorry for all the questions, but can someone explain to me what has happened with Rudy Giuliani? Has he gone crazy or senile? Does he have some sort of personal vendetta against the Clintons? i just imagine why someone who was suppose to respected, for lack of a better word, would be so willing to go down with a man like Trump.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Giuliani has always been somewhat far out there, because he made New York a fairly scary place for non-whites as far as the police goes. He was elevated as some sort of deity after 9/11, even though he did nothing out of the ordinary. He really went insane after he lost the 2008 presidential primary and started showing who he really is after that. His vendetta is pretty much the standard ones that a lot of Republicans have against the Clintons. I think he also still harbors anger over the 2000 US Senate race where he briefly ran against Hillary, but had to drop out of for health reasons.

Edited by ReddFoxx
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

So apparently the DNC had informed the FBI that its offices had been bugged? When did this happen?!

 

Well, for the National Enquirer this has got to be a first!

 

National Enquirer Shielded Donald Trump From Playboy Model’s Affair Allegation

 

Edited by DramatistDreamer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I keep seeing this narrative that black voters aren't turning out (yet these articles don't mention voter suppression). I don't know how much is true and how much is the media wanting to pit groups against each other if Trump wins as they are likely hoping. 

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/barack-obama-trump-un-american-inhuman-230753

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-detroit-detour-230771

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Of course they are wrong and ignore suppression but great news is as of yesterday NC AA caught up to 2012 levels with one more day of EV and Latinos EVERYWHERE including NC are over surpassing what anyone expected. High numbers voting in Florida, Arizona, North Carolina and if u saw yesterday in Nevada and the long lines of Latinos, this sleeping giant has been awoken this election. Word is that even Clintons campaign is shocked at the high  Latinx turnout. But anyone paying one bit of attention to Telemundo and Univision would know because they have been hitting Trump and the GOP hard for months. Yes Latinx's pay attention and again like in 2012 are underpolled? That poll that showed Trump ahead in Nevada by 4 had 0 Latinx's polled. Not 0 percent, 0.  Asian American vote is up by 40 percent over 2012. These numbers exceed the numbers Obama got in 2008. And dont discount women. We r also the sleeping giant the media has ignored.

Edited by JaneAusten
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Ms. Grace Bell Hardison, a 100 year old African American woman whose voter registration was challenged by a White man in her area (no doubt influenced by those flawed stories of voter fraud) got her right to vote restored. Thank goodness her nephew saw her name in the newspaper with the other voter registrations that were thrown off the rolls after being challenged and deemed fraudent.

Please register in order to view this content

  Thank goodness she fought back and got her registration and her right to vote restored!  President Obama mentioned her during a campaign appearance in NC this week and she wrote him a wonderful letter in response.

 

By the way, a judge ordered the state of NC to restore all the purged names back to the eligible voter registry rolls. It is illegal to purge names less than 90 days before an election. Apparently, the man who challenged Ms. Bell Hardison was ignorant of this fact.

 

Edited by DramatistDreamer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • I liked the food poisoning angle on Thursday because I said beforehand that I would be annoyed if Vanessa was not there at her BFF's party. And I loved they already planned ahead in the dialogue. lol.   But watching the scene (and a bit of a rewind), it hit me. Wait is she...??? Ooo gurrrl. lol. 
    • I'm not at all surprised the 10 lowest-rated episodes are all from Season Seven. Moving The Golden Girls from 9 p.m. to 8 p.m. was foolish.
    • As the folklore goes, Love Boat episodes generally had one "heart" story, one "laughs" story, and one "tears" story. I guess Hotel just stuck with "heart" and "tears."
    • I thought food poisoning was an odd reason for Vanessa to miss the party.  That's why I appreciate reading everyone's comments and theories on this thread.  Oh!!  It hadn't occurred to me to speculate that she might be pregnant. I figured that she and Doug ate different things.  But pregnancy fits better.  I did think Shanice's dialogue delivery was slightly awkward (unusual for her)... but that would make sense if Shanice knew Vanessa had a pregnancy test but Vanessa said don't tell Doug.  I love all this theorizing/speculating, especially since we have no idea what will happen.
    • I want that as well, but given how much I've been playing catch-up during some personal/family drama, it's been background music with very little to hold my interest. Then I saw a spoiler and rolled my eyes.   Very. I guess JG is hitting another of his low points. 
    • Well...unexpected wiggle room is still wiggle room.   I went back and finally rewatched Friday's episode (along with Thursday's). And God, how those episodes flowed. It did help that Zimmerman did the breakdowns for both so the plot threads were cohesive. I do wonder if she did it today as well. Martin and Tate also of course did good scripts. And I might have to take back my earlier comment about the crowd. While it was not like Nicole's Award Event where I felt there were more extras (and was in the minority on that), I felt this one did not have enough (also in the minority). But on a rewatch, I did like that Production actually did a fairly decent job of covering it up so kudos.    I also wanted to take the moment to say the majority of the week before last (and this past week) were full of cliffhangers. Perhaps not what is used to, but they were there. And I loved that since the majority of said cliffhangers were connected to Silk Press Sheila, it gave an intensity and build to the last week leading to this superb episode that gave us not only an old school soap reveal (complete with moments to let the scenes breathe, but annoyed in how other scenes which were also good did not compare...another sign of knowing when a reveal is great) but, THREE cliffhangers!!! Well-done, Cliffhanger Friday!!!   Ms. Mann and Ms. Michelle were clearly the stars. I've said it once someone mentioned it and I'll say it again...Ambyr just gives so much SMG's version of Kendall on AMC in Eva, and I love that. And that reveal on Silk Press Sheila...WOW. Great to have confirmation that BILL was the lawyer. Even better to see Silk Press interacting with all of the Duprees and not being a bit scared. And yes, I caught that she was preggers at the same time as Nicole. I also caught in the Martin vs Ted scene when he was talking about the timeline was another clue...since we discussed the timeline during Kat's birthday party episodes and how odd it was that Silk Press Sheila would celebrate Eva's birthday if the weeks were off. UNLESS...they're not. I just feel they would not be mentioning it unless SilkPress has a 90s DAYS Sami Trump card incoming. And 90s DAYS Sami Brady ALWAYS had a trump card. So...looking forward to today. lol.    I'm also going to be in the minority about the next thought. I thought Maurice did a good job as Ted in the reveal scenes. Though I do agree that compared to everyone else...even his FOINE doctor friend...he was the weak leak. DD was giving and she was in the background reacting. The Avengers...I mean...the Duprees closing ranks...was great and also showed how in sync the actors were. Naomi being sure Chels was not filming THIS time was a hoot. And I lived for Kat's shade among the mess. I'm happy that we are here at this reveal with OriginalTed since the rumor (marking preemptions) we are a little under two weeks to go before he's out.   I liked the layers. One thing that I like about this show. We usually mention something here and then the show writers have it mentioned either in episode or immediately in the next. The SilkPress/Eva picture last week. Where is Naomi/Vanessa this week of episodes. And they got to it. Well-played. I also like the reveal that Martin knew SilkPress as a kid, calling back to that weird scene with the brownie. I mentioned the Bill-as-Lawyer scene, calling back to Bill/Vernon's first alone scene. The reveal of all of SilkPress's many names. The fact that Andre and Dani continue to grow closer and closer and had a near-miss...something this show knows how to do extremely well for me. Their near-misses built up the drama and story, and I see how much I'm invested when we have them. The whole Silk Press Sheila story being the best example.    I see from a few of the comments some of you all are already thinking about those consequences toward Bill that I was thinking about on Friday.

      Please register in order to view this content

           And while I did not like the Vanessa/Doug scenes at first view...though I love they followed up on her food poisoning phone call on Thursday...I liked it on second watch. Partly because it gave another hint that Doug has some idea of what Vanessa is doing...if not who.  Partly because I had assumed that Doug got poisoned, too. Seeing it was just Vanessa confused me since I thought they were out at dinner pre-party. That said...I go back to my original thought in that moment. Has Vanessa being having all this sex without protection and we are going to get a WTD with Doug, Diego, and whoever else she has been with? Uh oh?    And I continue to also love how flashbacks are used. Rare do they show a flashback to a prior episode unless it's important so those are well done. And then you have the flashbacks like the one with Bill/Dani that informs the audience. And I loved that green dress. But tbf, I loved the feistiness of her red dress. Andre was not alone in taking her in.    And someone mentioned it the other day and I wanted to echo it. One thing I like about this show that I don't see much in the other soaps to this degree has been that several of the characters have their own personal style for sure, but the men's style really have stood out for me since its started. Ted being a clear example with his turtlenecks and general...for lack of better word at the moment manly...to him. I like that about the men where other men styles on other soaps just blend together.    Looking forward to Kat v Eva, Anita vs Silk Press Sheila, and Nicole vs Ted today.    Did I mention I was happy Clifton was back?  
    • I’ll take a pass on the lecture, because you've overestimated my concern with your feedback, but thanks for the enthusiasm. Your claims of not wanting to get into an argument over every post are unfortunately voided by your impulsive need to add into discussions that are none of your concern.  
    • I guess it's because the stories on "Hotel" tended to be very...melodramatic, lol?  I mean, it seems like every episode had long-lost lovers reuniting or people finding out someone they knew and/or loved was dying.  And then there was the time Anne Baxter was strung out on dope, lol. Brandon Stoddard must've envied what the other Brandon (Tartikoff) was doing at NBC.
    • Given some of the things that have been said I am going to quote the preface to an analysis I researched & posted about the desired demos when JFP was EP of AW. And, that is more than enough about that, from me.  
    • The thing that I am stuck on is that the in studio scenes in Egypt started airing in mid-October. It seems very strange that they would have planned to have a couple of weeks of studio scenes airing before they started showing location footage. Normally even though some scenes in a remote-infused storyline are in studio, they would start airing a mixture of studio and location footage at the same time. I suspect they had put Arizona in their back pocket well before the Achille Lauro (hence Hawk arriving in September) and possibly moved up the Egypt in-studio action so that the remote Arizona piece unfolded during November. The Achille Lauro may have been the final straw but I would bet it was not the first time they considered the risk. I have found one somewhat contemporaneous reference published on October 19th but pinned to an October 7th* "diary entry" mentioning that the location shoot in Egypt had been changed to Arizona. "International terrorism has its effect on daytime drama, too. Another World producers had scheduled an elaborate and expensive location shoot in Egypt this fall, But with the serious military attacks and hijackings going on, they decided to play it safe. They are going to Arizona instead. The cast members involved were disappointed but understood the decision." *Undated, but specified as the Monday before Melody Thomas's wedding to Ed Scott. But of course it's possible that the first draft referred to Egypt and was revised after October 7th to mention the cancellation before it went to press. But even making the decision the week of October 7th seems tight to get the Egypt scenes to air on the 17th/18th. I would love to find something from a daily news cycle that would be clearer about the dates.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy