It's been that way since we last saw her around the 17th...

I didn't see the show a lot in Sept so missed seeing her with the darker hair, and I answered bandbfan's question the best way I knew how.

Has it been that short and straight? I guess I haven't seen her since it's been longer and wavier.

Now that you mention it I think her is a lot shorter then the last time I saw her.....

Here's a clip I found from 9/17 and her hair was a lot longer......

That clip shows that the casting directors did a good job with Steffy. She looks very believable as Taylor's daughter...But also someone should show Jack Wagner this so he cuts that mop off..Or has he already? I haven't watched in a month or so.

Lol I noticed JW's hair in that clip. But it cut off before I could see Steffy and now it says no longer available.

But look, Jack Smith is there NOW, writing scripts. They are among the WORST scripts (see last Friday as an example). Kay is presumably master-crafting all this bullsh*t.

It is the WORST B&B has been in 21 years.

So, something is seriously wrong..... He is either not letting those two do their stuff, OR they have no "mojo" outside of Genoa City and Bill Bell's legacy. But something is horribly awry.

The thing is...Y&R (IMO) was mostly pretty good under the Alden and Smith pens. Yes, there were lame spots...but that was also true under Bill Bell. So I'm not understanding how it can go from "pretty good" to "utter dreck", unless Alden and Smith are not being allowed to ply their trade.

I firmly believe that it isn't Kay or Jack in the driver's seat at B&B. Kay, if she indeed is Co-HW (it hasn't appeared in the credits, she's still listed under Minnis) is simply executing Brad's ideas. Jack, well honestly I don't think his scripts are all that bad at all...I enjoy the melodramatic Y&R style dialog, I always have. When Kay was Interim HW during the strike the show was really good, so I think it's clear that she isn't in charge (of course, it stands to reason that she wasn't in charge then because I don't buy for one hot minute that Brad wasn't sending in outlines and notes)

My problem with the show is that it's too serious. It needs more fashion! That said it's still enjoyable.

Edited October 6, 200817 yr by DaytimeFan

I didn't see the show a lot in Sept so missed seeing her with the darker hair, and I answered bandbfan's question the best way I knew how.

sorry, wasn't trying to be rude, I'm just a big Steffy fan and have been counting days to actually see her on screen again.

Do we really have to have Nick and Brooke again??

Brooke doesn't have to worry about Taylor with Jack but instead her own sister. Now thats good soap if it wasn't for the 100 other things that are wrong with this storyline and the show itself.

I watched Friday's episode for the first time in over a month. God, the show is so bad. It's not even campy. It is just lacklustre.

I cannot believe how little I felt for Katie when she lost her baby. B&B pulled out the Very Sad String Music and all but it all felt overdone. The dialogue was boring, predictable, forgettable. Nick had a look on his face like "OK, how quickly can I get back with Brooke?" He seems to dump a lot of women based on their inability to bear his child.

I tried to laugh at Marcus getting bit by a snake -- and Donna's reaction -- but that, too, felt lacklustre. Jennifer Gareis has not improved as an actress and I cannot believe Donna is driving most of the stories on the show. Plus, in those outdoor scenes, her make-up (esp. those colored-in eyebrows) is really noticeably thick.

B&B seems to have caught GL-itis. It got so enamoured of the idea of shooting outdoors that it just forgot about script. Sometimes we get random scenes on the Forrester roof/gym/loading bay (obviously not the snake-biting scene) and they might as well have some banner in the background, saying "OMG, you guys, look! We're shooting outside!"

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by Cat

I watched Friday's episode for the first time in over a month. God, the show is so bad. It's not even campy. It is just lacklustre.

I cannot believe how little I felt for Katie when she lost her baby. B&B pulled out the Very Sad String Music and all but it all felt overdone. The dialogue was boring, predictable, forgettable. Nick had a look on his face like "OK, how quickly can I get back with Brooke?" He seems to dump a lot of women based on their inability to bear his child.

I tried to laugh at Marcus getting bit by a snake -- and Donna's reaction -- but that, too, felt lacklustre. Jennifer Gareis has not improved as an actress and I cannot believe Donna is driving most of the stories on the show. Plus, in those outdoor scenes, her make-up (esp. those colored-in eyebrows) is really noticeably thick.

B&B seems to have caught GL-itis. It got so enamoured of the idea of shooting outdoors that it just forgot about script. Sometimes we get random scenes on the Forrester roof/gym/loading bay (obviously not the snake-biting scene) and they might as well have some banner in the background, saying "OMG, you guys, look! We're shooting outside!"

Yes.

Lol I was having flashbacks of Shelia when Pam snuck up Donna. She kind of even talked in that low-whisper voice that KB always did.

Lol I was having flashbacks of Shelia when Pam snuck up Donna. She kind of even talked in that low-whisper voice that KB always did.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! That crazy Pam. I thought she was gone for good.

This show has been one HOT MESS!!! They've seriously ran out of ideas and don't know what the heck to do with ANYONE anymore and it is so OBVIOUS! The writers are phoning it in big time.

Pam rocks! B&B has needed a character like Pam for a loooooong time.

Pam rocks! B&B has needed a character like Pam for a loooooong time.

Respectfully, no.

She highlights all that is wrong with the show....an intriguing character with deep family ties, sacrificed on the altar of plot-plot-plot. Over the top campiness, but not in a good way.

I miss the days of good B&B.

I only saw the first half of yesterday's show and today's show just started here, and I have no words to comment on these Pammy/Donna scenes going on other then the camera work is making me dizzy........

The whole Pam thing is very Shelia-esque now. I liked how she tied it back to Stephanie's troubled past with her parents, though. At least there appears to be some kind of motive. I think the timing of this is all off though. It makes Eric look very waffle-ly and stupid, going back and forth, saying he doesn't care about what he saw, but then that he was done with her, and back again. They should've had this Pam threat come up before Eric found out about Donna and Owen.

Edited October 8, 200817 yr by bandbfan

This show has been one HOT MESS!!! They've seriously ran out of ideas and don't know what the heck to do with ANYONE anymore and it is so OBVIOUS! The writers are phoning it in big time.

Word.

Although the writers have not run out of ideas, it's more the execution which puts new meaning to p i s s-p o o r writing. The pacing is ludicrous even in stories/involving characters which you don't despise to the fullest. Seriously, if B&B weren't my #1 baby I would have kicked it into the curb this Summer. Everything which I consider an utmost failure (stupid plotpoints, no pacing, no feeling, cheap dialogue) drove me away from GH some years ago. It's like a deja-vu of seeing a trainwreck.

Alike of GH, the potential is there (needless to say that Guza/Phelps/Frons managed to trash it a lot further down the road...) which makes it even more frustrating. A show can be just plain bad (like when LML headed Y&R solely with family and house personnel) so that you can bid it a teery farewell but being drawn into still watching utter crap gaining some hope and still being disappointed is hard...

That said, I'm currently watching mid-September episodes which, dare I say, are shockingly good. It's not that they are re-inventing the wheel but it's just not too bad since Eric awoke from his coma. Lots of family interaction *gasp* Eric has other children than bastard son Ridge or doctor Bridget – OMG *gasp*, even Beth made a visit to Eric. *gasp* use of history, three months late but still *gasp* Stephanie and Brooke sparing over Eric and Donna... Basically everything that doesn’t involve Nick & Katie is bearable. The baby Jack stuff is unoriginal but so far done ok and I accept it as logical consequence of Taylor’s insecurity out of raising Rosemary’s ahem Brooke’s baby. Most importantly though the stories are now linked and characters are having actual dialogue discussing feelings/impact and such drivel. A-mazing.

LMAO at Thorne playing watch-dog with the walkie-talkie to prevent intruders like Donna to enter the holy Forrester premises. Since B&B is written much further in advance it’s fair to say that Y&R bought this idea from B&B now that Victor is having the Newman Ranch patrolled in the same manner in those episodes I’m currently watching...

I don’t expect the B&B “momentum” (sad at how little I’m to please...) to keep going especially as I’ve heard of Katie’s miscarriage. Will be interesting seeing Heather Tom losing another baby on TV but I don’t expect it to be nearly as heartbreaking as when she lost a child as Y&R’s Victoria back in 1998...