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OLTL: Michael Logan's Rant about Carlivati


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Excellent post MarkH btw.

Well the posted said the best Head Writer out of the eight, not shows. I agree with that sentiment. Everyone seems to be the same tired old recycled HW's we had about 5 years ago, only that they're at different soaps right now.

IMO Y&R is good right now, but just like OLTL, the show has a tendency to drag a bit.

I think it says alot, when IMO, the show hasn't been shoving the teen/younger set down our throats compared to oh say ATWT. I know when I was once in that demographic it wasn't the teen set that pulled me into the show, but the adults per se.

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MarkH as usual I agree with a lot of your post. But I don't buy the suggestion that to make OLTL more campy and more of a hommage to the 80s was a decree that came from above. Frons and crew all seemed VERY satisfied with the new buzz and critical acclaim OLTL was getting under Carlivati, true ratings weren't climbing but they were steady. I think the 80s vibe was nearly ALL Rauch's doing - and I'd lay money on it. It's no secret that he was a HUGE HUGE fan of the show during the 80s--for one of several reasons.

"I think it says alot, when IMO, the show hasn't been shoving the teen/younger set down our throats compared to oh say ATWT. I know when I was once in that demographic it wasn't the teen set that pulled me into the show, but the adults per se. "

WHY DON'T MORE SOAPS REALIZE THIS. A huge draw with EVERYONE I know who watches soaps is the broad ages of characters on the show--something that's rare in primetime shows and can often be especially appealing to teenagers looking for a sense of family. I know it was for me. It also felt sophisticated I think to me to follow the problems of people largelyolder than myself (something that's common for generations--Archie comics and teen shows like Saved By the Bell were and are enjoyed much more by PRE TEENS who imagien themselves as teenagers, for example). Yes when I became an AMC addict the romance of Hayley and Brian was appealing to me, but it wasn't even my fave story.

This is more common than I thought--I remember talking to an aquantance who frnakly I found to be fairly superficial and it came up that she was a DAYS fan--much to my surprise one of the first things she said was "It's not nearly as good as it was when I started watching--I hate that now all it shows are teenagers and young people" (this was about five years back)

Does OLTL air a day ahead in some parts of Canada? I'm in the west and we get it and AMC on A Channel (with the SOap's Up segment that;'s filmed right here in Victoria--I've met the host a few times in the grocery store lol) and we get the same day as the US--but on Global we do get Y&R and DAYS a day ahead. I just didn't knwo the ABC soaps aired a day ahead some places

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I didn't like teen characters even when I was a teen. I've been watching soaps since I was about 6 and my favorite characters have always been older characters. When I was a pre-teen, my favorite couples were Phoebe & Langley Wallingford, Palmer & Daisy Cortland, and Edward & Lila Quartermaine. and for goodness sake! Teenagers just aren't very interesting and nobody knows that better than other teenagers.

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Actually he's supposed to write stories that appeal to a broad audience and makes huge quantites of people want to tune in. Getting all caught up in thinking "Oh! I am being so clever and creative and bold. I really love what I am writing here." doesn't not equate to commercial success. Doesn't mean his stories are bad just because not so many people like them. Maybe we just don't "get it". But ultimately, he needs to please his audience.

Yes. But I don't know which parts.

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No matter what this guy says- he is not a fan- he is the HW...But he thinks by saying this, he's entitled to some hugs at the end of every story...This ain't fan fiction...This guy gets paid extremely well to write this stuff, to dictate who's dying, who's lying, and who's getting off with a not guilty verdict....If he's a professional he will take what is said and use it to improve his work and not go home sobbing about it.

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What is he supposed to say when interviewed about his stories? "They suck and nobody should watch them?" Number one, IMO most of them don't and number two, that's just unlikely. Why don't we roast every other HW for daring to do fall previews as well?

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Sure he's supposed to hype his stories, but when it gets to the point, that he comes out and says that he can't understand why fans would be upset about the Todd and Marty stuff, and won't even try to imagine why some of us would be upset, then that's a turn off for me.

He acts like we shouldn't be upset about it cause he's "not going there" but he already has in so many ways....

Sums him up perfectly!

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