The ad he had talking to the people played this morning. I think the decision the Obama camp made was to show they are not Kerry or Gore. They will fight back. I don't care for how some in the media are trying to paint Obama with the same brush as McCain.

This is all McCain has left, and if he gets himself on tv tonight and brings this stuff up.................Obama should bring up this 90-year-old woman who tried to kill herself because she thought she would lose her home, or this man who wiped out his entire family because he couldn't find a job.

I'm glad they are running that ad. Actually the Keating Five ad is a web documentary. It was talked about on the news, but I don't know that he invested any money showing it.

I agree with you about McCain just seeming angry. I thought he was very angry during the first debate.

I'm also hearing that McPalin is spending time in states that should be shored up.

Obama and Biden can seal the deal tonight and next Wed. night.

Florida is leaning Obama?!

Damn.

I'm hoping Obama and Biden start their last week strategy next week and carry it through election day. It's time for the here is the energy ads and to see them out with the folks. I'm ready for the huge crowds, the 18 hour campaign days and the across the nation campaign. Once those start, they make McCain and his shrieking irrelevant. You know it's always good to make those who shriek irrelevant

I do find that interesting. I find it hard to believe that Virginia is leaning Obama, when they haven't voted Democrat since FDR.

Actually, the last time they voted Democratic for President was in 1964 with Johnson. Virginia has been trending Democratic the past few cycles, so it's not that big of a stretch.

Florida leaning Obama is a bit surprising, I thought it would be closer than that at this point. The Republican ticket is scrambling right now

Well, they are throwing the BS towards him. If the ecomonic crisis hadn't hit, no telling where these polls and states would be.

But, with real life as a constant, the people are seeing who handles it better. And for once, Obama being calm and cool seems to be benefitting him, as it should.

Actually, the last time they voted Democratic for President was in 1964 with Johnson. Virginia has been trending Democratic the past few cycles, so it's not that big of a stretch.

I think Virginia is a dead tie right now 49/49. I think it will go McCain though. Did it go for Clinton?

I think Nevada will go Obama. Colorado may go Obama. Obama needs Ohio or Florida. I'm hoping he gets both.

Ambiguous is what you are...

Ok..you are reading a whole lot into what I wrote...You made it seem as if you have no personal stake in this election...then you do...now you dont...

I dont really care..

Then why even ask?

One minute you seem to take issue with my not taking this all seriously enough and the next you want to make a bet on the election outcome like it's some sort of a ball game.

Actually, the last time they voted Democratic for President was in 1964 with Johnson. Virginia has been trending Democratic the past few cycles, so it's not that big of a stretch.

Thanks for clearing that up for us, Redd.

Florida leaning Obama is a bit surprising, I thought it would be closer than that at this point. The Republican ticket is scrambling right now, Palin was even in Nebraska the other day, which is solid red.

Real Clear Politics still has it as a toss-up with Obama up by 3.1%--Also, there hasn't been a FL poll released since 10/05

RCP Average 09/27 - 10/05 -- 48.4 45.3 Obama +3.1

FOX News/Rasmussen 10/05 - 10/05 1000 52 45 Obama +7

Florida Chamber ® 09/30 - 10/01 619 42 45 McCain +3

CNN/Time 09/28 - 09/30 51 47 Obama +4

InAdv/PollPosition 09/30 - 09/30 49 46 Obama +3

Suffolk/WSVN 09/27 - 09/30 46 42 Obama +4

Quinnipiac 09/27 - 09/29 51 43 Obama +8

SurveyUSA 09/27 - 09/2847 48 McCain +1

PPP (D) 09/27 - 09/2849 46 Obama +3

It worries me that FOX News has McCain down in FL..LOL!

Then why even ask?

One minute you seem to take issue with my not taking this all seriously enough and the next you want to make a bet on the election outcome like it's some sort of a ball game.

I didn't ask..you volunteered. I said I hope you wouldn't be in a joking mood after the debate..then I got you life story..

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by Casey008

Actually, the last time they voted Democratic for President was in 1964 with Johnson. Virginia has been trending Democratic the past few cycles, so it's not that big of a stretch.

You're right. I forgot about that election. They've voted for Dems twice since FDR..Truman in 1948 and LBJ 1964 ...44 years ago.

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by Casey008

Alrighty then..

Well..that was my attempt to discuss issues...but once again..I guess I am the more popular subject.

Well, Casey, several pages back I tried to discuss the death penalty with you (and a few other posters mentioned something about it as well) and it went ignored.

Don't try to claim that you are the only one interested in issues in this thread. You say that, but then turn around with your non-issue "October Surprise", Ayers and this last stupid ass article about some bigot in Kenya. Those aren't issues. Not even close.

It hurts my feelings to hear a fellow Amanda fan say that. It's up to you.

I'm not sure what I said that made you think I was supporting McCain's use of "gook". I was trying to explain..why he may have said what he said. I did not mean to condone it.

Well, the fact of the matter is that you did come across as condoning it. You rationalized his use of the word in saying he as tortured. Never once did you say he was wrong in uttering that word. Never once. If that's not condoning his use of the word, I don't know what is.

You're right. I forgot about that election. They've voted for Dems twice since FDR..Truman in 1948 and LBJ 1964 ...44 years ago.

There's been a shift in N. VA to the Democrats. I believe Ryan posted something on this earlier and your candidate's brother called them "communists". Going by your rationale against Gwen Ifell, then I could say that John McCain himself agrees with his brother's statement and has called Northern VA Democrats communists.

But I won't.

Seriously, how can you support a party as divisive this? Do you agree with the complete and utter [!@#$%^&*] that spews forth from their pie holes? How do you justify it? Before you answer that, let me just say that if Obama or anyone with the slightest connection to him said the same thing, you would be here crying about it.

Well, Casey, several pages back I tried to discuss the death penalty with you (and a few other posters mentioned something about it as well) and it went ignored.

Don't try to claim that you are the only one interested in issues in this thread. You say that, but then turn around with your non-issue "October Surprise", Ayers and this last stupid ass article about some bigot in Kenya. Those aren't issues. Not even close.

What did ask about the death penalty? I must have missed that.

Stupid-ass article? Why are all of you becoming so militant? Your man is in the lead...

Well, the fact of the matter is that you did come across as condoning it. You rationalized his use of the word in saying he as tortured. Never once did you say he was wrong in uttering that word. Never once. If that's not condoning his use of the word, I don't know what is.

Well I wasn't. I said he should have known better. How is that condoning it?

I shouldn't have tried to defend him on that like Roman asked me...I should have seen it as a baited challenge (which is was)..Oh well..

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by Casey008

There's been a shift in N. VA to the Democrats. I believe Ryan posted something on this earlier and your candidate's brother called them "communists". Going by your rationale against Gwen Ifell, then I could say that John McCain himself agrees with his brother's statement and has called Northern VA Democrats communists.

Did John McCain call his brother brilliant? That the rationale I was using with Ifill and her cousin..

Seriously, how can you support a party as divisive this? Do you agree with the complete and utter [!@#$%^&*] that spews forth from their pie holes? How do you justify it? Before you answer that, let me just say that if Obama or anyone with the slightest connection to him said the same thing, you would be here crying about it.

What specifically are you talking about? "complete and utter---spews from pie holes'? I don't know that you are talking about..

What did ask about the death penalty? I must have missed that.

Stupid-ass article? Why are all of you becoming so militant? Your man is in the lead...

Well I wasn't. I said he should have known better. How is that condoning it?

I shouldn't have tried to defend him on that like Roman asked me...I should have seen it as a baited challenge (which is was)..Oh well..

That is just.....

Sad.

You were the one who responded to that post, but now I BAITED you.

You can't take responsibility for nothing! It is truly sad.

Well I wasn't. I said he should have known better. How is that condoning it?

I shouldn't have tried to defend him on that like Roman asked me...I should have seen it as a baited challenge (which is was)..Oh well..

No you shouldn't have tried to defend it because something like that has no defense and in doing so you were implicitly condoning it....especially when you asked a question along the lines of whether a person would prefer a terrorist to a racist.

Obama isn't a terrorist and McCain did make a racist remark....

That is just.....

Sad.

You were the one who responded to that post, but now I BAITED you.

You can't take responsibility for nothing! It is truly sad.

No you shouldn't have tried to defend it because something like that has no defense and in doing so you were implicitly condoning it....especially when you asked a question along the lines of whether a person would prefer a terrorist to a racist.

Obama isn't a terrorist and McCain did make a racist remark....

Would you all rather I left this thread..so as to allow you to pat each other on the backs...Not very interesting if you ask me, but ...I'm not going to continue to take this crap.

I'm not a bigot and I did not condone McCain's use of gook.

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by Casey008