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Sounds like a notable epi of LOST GIRL, too.
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That is right. 'Oy, Ellen Weston' goes with what precedes it, which is hating that danged hand puppet and Sandy. The rest is what I liked & didn't like. Weston had nothing to do with Jammy. She was Marryanne Caruthers, Carrie Nye, the teens tunneling under the city till they fell through a hole in an apartment, bringing doubt on 5 adult men, etc. Now, is it clear yet?
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No, VR, I'm not contradicting myself. Susan D. Lee AND JFP were behind the murder of Frankie Frame. Margaret DePreist was the HW of it. The idea of doing a focus group to decide which female to murder came out of Susan D. Lee AND JFP. JFP was definitely a part of Frankie's death. Read up on it at the AWHP. You're woefully behind. WLS.net blames her, too. I never said that Ellen Weston liked Jammy. Ellen Weston gave us Sandy & that damned sock puppet & Maryanne Carruthers & Carrie Nye & a bunch of other stuff but NOT JAMMY. Please get your info straight.
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Now, I loved Jonathan, hated Sandy & that danged hand puppet. Oy, Ellen Weston, loved Jammy, and loved Jonathan & Sarah. Bill & Lizzie were good together. I found Reva to be too much there at the end & with Jeffrey O'Neill. I don't like doppelgangers. Prince Richard was enough. We didn't need him back after that. Loved Otalia & their international popularity.
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Worst EPs ever: I name John Conboy over his brief tenure at GL. I name JFP over 4 shows including the murder of Frankie Frame at AW & killing Mo at GL. To me Ellen Wheeler did a great job with the new production model and with the stories of Otalia & Jammy & the new show music & themes. She also came up with budget to make up for a deficit Conboy created.
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I definitely did not mean to if I did. They were long gone. We agree that they were long gone. I don't consider EW to have had shoddy production values. I do defend Wheeler's productions value, yes. I meant by that to acknoweldge that they did have to learn to write TO the new medium and that they didn't initially know how to write to it. By that I just meant that having ConWest hanging over, was in their way when they needed to be getting on with the business of proactively teaching themselves how to write for the new production model. Didn't Ellen Weston stay a whole year in the way? She was the Writer. And. Conboy was the Producer but he was the Producer who was spending more than his share of budget, spending budget that Wheeler would need, etc. Well, if it seemed like that, I'm sorry it did because it was not what I meant. The effects of what Weston wrote infringed & the amount that Conby spent infringed. But, they were gone. We agree that they were gone. Hangover. I just love giving you a laugh!
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I didn't realize I duplicated the Paley Center YT links. I had no idea you were trying to be nice. I don't think I am a spammer. I don't think I post pointless anecdotes, whatever that might be, I make errors sometimes and I correct them. I don't think I am being audacious about a handful of people being snarky. I just got a new soap opera book "Writing for Daytime Drama" by Jean Rouverol in the mail at mid-day and besides looking at that and watching DOOL live and being on the computer I was multi-tasking. And, last up, I am not here looking for attention.
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Victoria Wyndham Pays Tribute to Douglass Watson at the 1989 Daytime Emmys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqZAqVs3pTI Victoria and Linda both cried all the way through this presentation. http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/misc8.html ANOTHER WORLD: MAC'S SPEECHES Cory Thanksgiving Speech Givers. Pre-1989: Mac; 1989: Rachel; 1990: Paulina; 1991: Jake; 1992: not shown (only Rachel, Ada, Amanda, Cass, and Frankie in attendance) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAHUJ-MM294 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pOq29zDwI
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Was Holly tarnished beyond redemption? I have to start off saying that I have always enjoyed the Holly character. She is neither a hero nor a vixen, she falls somewhere in the grey area in between. Holly Norris was simply a complex character. She was ambitious, strong, and yet slightly neurotic. Whereas characters like Reva wore their feelings openly Holly kept her feelings closely guarded, a pool of deep still waters. The scene from 1979 where her husband Roger Thorpe rapes Holly has become a memorable piece of Guiding Light history. One of those iconic markers that even if it was before your time (like me) you know about it and have watched the amazing acting between Maureen Garrett and Michael Zaslow. But it was the late 90s when the character of Holly really took a beating, a beating she never fully recovered from. It all began with the sudden romance between Holly and Fletcher Reade that would lead to their marriage in 1995. Months after they married Holly learned she was pregnant which left them both shocked, yet happy. They also learned that their unborn child would be born with Downs Syndrome. Though Holly thought of having an abortion she decided against it and later gave birth to daughter Meg. Later they learned that Meg was born with a hole in her heart and needed surgery. Holly and Fletcher remained happily married until 1997 when Holly decided to let Roger back in her life. Roger and Holly’s closeness didn’t go unnoticed by Fletcher, who after seeing Roger give Holly a “grandmother’s” ring, asked Holly point-blank if something was going on between them. After Fletcher caught Holly and Roger in an embrace, devastated, Fletcher left town with Meg in tow. Holly fell into a deep depression and turned to alcohol for comfort. Holly’s brother Ken, who’d been in an institution for decades, noticed she had a drinking problem and didn’t want to watch his sister destroy herself. Sadly, Holly let it slip that Jeffery Morgan, not Buzz Cooper, was Rocky’s father which ultimately led to the death of Jenna Bradshaw. Though it appeared as if Holly was getting her life together, several strange occurrences began to happen in Springfield. Harley Cooper was given a gift basket that contained a poisoned apple and Vanessa Reardon found herself bit by a poisonous spider. When each instance came with a nursery rhyme, it became clear that Springfield had a “Nursery Rhyme Stalker” who was targeting Springfield mothers ... Soon it was revealed that Holly was the Nursery Rhyme Stalker. But this was not before she had kidnapped most of the children in Springfield including: Kevin and Jason Marler (her grandchildren), Susan LeMay, Rocky, Marina, and Henry “Coop” Cooper, Shayne Lewis, Lizzie Spaulding, Tammy Layne and Roger Joshua Jessup and held them against their will. Thankfully when Fletcher heard that Holly was the Nursery Rhyme Stalker he returned to Springfield and convinced a judge that it was his actions that caused Holly to go off the deep end. FLASHFORWARD to 2004 and Holly learned of Roger’s death from a man named Sebastian Hulce who claimed he was Roger’s son. Sebastian asked Holly to take a trip to Santo Domingo to celebrate Roger’s life. They stopped in the same hotel Roger kidnapped her years ago and even saw a waiter that resembled Roger. But Sebastian then held Holly captive; he was dying and needed Holly to contact Ed for the cure. After a long (and awful) storyline Sebastian freed his But Sebastian then held Holly captive; he was dying and needed Holly to contact Ed for the cure. After a long (and awful) storyline Sebastian freed his hostages, yet Holly stayed behind to bid him farewell. Alone, Sebastian made a convincing plea for why he and Holly should be together but Holly resisted. She really had no interest in Sebastian. She was constantly conflicted by her emotions regarding Roger, torn between love and hate. They were at their core toxic, but so very beautiful to watch. When asked if there were any storylines she didn’t like, it is no wonder that Maureen Garrett answers with the “Nursery Rhyme Stalker” and falling in a Stockholm syndrome type of love with her kidnapper Sebastian Hulce. They were both awful storylines. One “tarnished” Holly Norris and the other was so out of character for Holly it was hard to watch. (The actor who played Sebastian was very talented. However, at one point in the story, he forced himself onto Holly for a kiss.) delete
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