Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
Re PB and the 5 years contract-why It's not like he's some hot young star they need to hang on to. Peter will be there to the last episode anyway. Wonder what the terms are, in terms of money and guarantees... Will Eric be offered the same?
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I would assume that Jane Eliot would have stayed another year and that would have been it. She was not the type to settle into a longterm role (at least at that point) So Doug would have known that and written to that point-Carrie would either leave town or die. Carrie Mowery was not well received as Jackie so killing her off was an easy decision. As for Justin, Tom O'Rourke's contract was up. He probably was ready to leave and as Kobe had no interest in him staying as he was older and expensive (going into his third contract) so goodbye Justin.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Marland always said he had the next phase of the story planned out, which would have been Carrie integrating her personalities. Don't know how that would have played out onscreen (endless therapy sessions?) and how the Ross/Carrie story would have progressed. Maybe Carrie says until she gets well she wants Ross to move on w/o her. Ross steadfastly refuses but is tempted by another?
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
The only reason I could see Billy and Chelsea getting together is some drama with Johnny, their son. It could work that Chelsea encounters Johhny when he's out with Billy and maybe he and Connor strike up a friendship. When Victoria finds out, she's not happy and there's tension as Billy sides with Chelsea's notions of letting Johhny know his real mother etc Maybe Johhny is in an accident (maybe while with Billy and Chelsea) with Chelsea and Victoria then at loggerheads It doesn't have to be a Billy/Chelsea romance just a a parental bond... The roundabout romances need to stop.
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
Memo to Josh. PLEASE stop with the ridiculous business stories eg Jabot buying Marchetti. You don'y need a business degree to know the whole thing is totally illogical. In fact it's unnecessary. Why couldn't Summer and Kyle just return to GC, realizing they missed the US and their families? As for the media stories... A lot of this business stuff is just there to give these characters something to talk about. There are no employees , offices, meetings etc. And maybe they should just relocate the show to New York to make it slightly credible.
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How Core Families Die
Do those Horton characters interact much? Would a newer viewer get a sense of a strong family unit?
- Moment of Truth (NBC 1965 serial)
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
Well Jess/Jill always delivers, especially now she's been softened a little. For a while there everytime she turned up it was to be a nagging shrew. Susan is a class act and Leigh Ann, while no great shakes (blame inexperience, mediocre writing and lack of direction) has a spark and her character, unlike the bland Amanda and Elena, actually has an agenda and attitude.
- DAYS: Behind the Scenes, Articles/Photos
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B&B: Sheila & Li spoiler
So basically just some footage of an old SUV catching fire and plummeting into a lake with studio shots of Li and Sheila driving spliced in. That stunt was probably done years ago for another Sony show...
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
Fabtastic news! Just proves there are many people involved with shows at the time that have tapes of unseen episodes.
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
By now Traci should have adopted/mentored a young woman who has become her surrogate daughter and part of the Abbott family. Maybe Steve had a daughter whose mom died and came to live with the Connellys? That could easily be explained and worked into the story. Traci becomes a surrogate mother to the girl and they stay close after her divorce from Steve.
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
Enjoyed the anniversary episode. We got to see Danny,Tim, Amy,John and Brad. With so much history there they had to be selective and did a good job. Eileen and Beth made the dialogue flow so easily-obviously with years under their belt and knowing the characters inside and out. But it contrasted with Kelsey Wang who sounded a little clunky to me. I like the actress but the newbies aren't getting the direction, the character background or the time that Beth and Eileen had in their early days. What do we know about Allie? She seems a nice young woman and that's it. Also Jack got the final shot? Should have been Ashley and Traci.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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YR Promo week of June 20th: Phyllis's Revenge.
I agree. Constantly trying to involve Victor in his children's lives is beyond ridiculous by now. He has betrayed them/interfered so many times that they look like fools in these games of one upmanship. If only EB had retired or limited his presence after his 40th so they could actually move on from retelling these same stories. As for business, again it would be nice for them to descale and instead of billion dollar conglomerates have characters operating smaller operations that could be more easily and realistically depicted. Victoria could run a high end art gallery, Lauren ONE small scale dept store etc Have Jabot be a more upscale boutique operation, rather than this nonsense of them purchasing international Italian based fashion companies. PS what is Victoria wearing in those pics-some sort of 2 in 1 dress?
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YR Promo week of June 20th: Phyllis's Revenge.
Ashland has been sporting the casual look w/jeans for a while now.
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Actors who could/should have played other characters on their show.
Guiding Light Teri Keane as Trudy Bauer rather than Lainie. A true connection to the past rather than a retcon relative. Trudy could have had children in the decades away. Maybe as a single mom, hence then having the Bauer name.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
Bernard sans toupee It's interesting how soap actors were used in commercials despite being known to millions as a character. A lot of viewers would have been like -Why is Johnny Ryan the pharmacist? Primetime actors were not used the same way eg you didn't have Ricardo Montalban pretending to be a Chrysler salesman for the Cordoba or the likes of Cheryl Ladd pretending to be a housewife. Just points out the different attitude to soaps and soap actors.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Not totally familiar with B&B BITD when Joanna Johnson was brought back as Karen, but am I correct in saying that Ridge/Karen was never explored? Despite the fact that Ronn Moss/Joanna Johnson had clicked previously and it was an obvious story to have Ridge entranced by Karen due to her resemblance to Caroline and for Karen to be captivated by Ridge, Even if they didn't want Ridge/Karen as a major couple at least it should have been explored?
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Y&R: Old Articles
Not sure of a debut date but the mention of the Colonnade Room reminds me that in an old synopses (I think it was Days) there is mention of the Colonnade Room as a swanky dining destination. So Bill Bell must have liked the name to use it again. Unless I am misremembering and it was another show? And when did the Colonnade room set stop being used? Found that there was a Colonnade Room in Chicago at one point .Wonder if Bill dined there and decided to use the name
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
How come Doug Davidson didn't get a 40th anni episode in 2018? He was still on the show at that time. Was he already marked for extinction at that point and they didn't want to draw attention to his status?
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Y&R June 2022 Discussion Thread
Killing off Colleen and ignoring Keemo all those years were probably the biggest mistakes re The Abbotts as well as the multiple pointless marriages of Jack and Ashley. Keeping the kids to a minimum looks a wise move in terms of later decisions to give everybody kids - now we have Connor, Chtristian, Johnny, Katie, Reed,Bella,Miles etc who are barely if ever seen and have to be written around.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Perhaps it was also Marland running out of ideas after 7 or so years. We see it often with writers coming to a show with fresh ideas, interesting new characters . But once those initial stories have been told and actors leave etc, it gets harder to come up with compelling new stories for those remaining. Having characters like Tess, Hutch,Rosanna driving stories seemed wrong to me. Where were the Hughes and the Snyders who had been established as the core characters who had involvement in every story?
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How Core Families Die
I'm glad you referenced this as it has often been quoted as fact that Lipton put the Matthews on the backburner and focused on the Gregorys. And that Agnes Nixon killed off all the Gregorys. As stated Irna dropped Granny Matthews and Susan Matthews. Alice was a supporting character, Russ was hardly seen. The original focus was on Pat, Bill and Janet with Jim, Pat and Liz heavily involved. Lipton kept those characters frontburner. He took the character of Ernest and got him involved with Janet in a triangle with Ken Baxter. His parents were introduced but they were supporting. Ernest's backstory was that he had been in love with Karen who married her brother Alex. Alex and Karen returned and that situation was played out. Ken and Laura reconciled, leaving Janet to agree to marry Ernest. But when Alex was killed in a car accident,Janet worried Alex would turn again to Karen, so she refused to marry him. Ernest left town. So it was hardly a takeover by the Gregory family. In fact Agnes dropped the character of Janet Matthews who had been a main character since the beginning.