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That storyline was the start of the trademark black tank tops 😂

I didn't bother to watch today as I remember the original airing and this episode was also rebroadcast before. Looking forward to the 1990s episodes next week.

Victor was so sweet to Nikki when he put makeup on her. EB was so handsome here 🥰 The Katherine/Jill feud was reigniting and the attic fight was not long after this. Can't wait for that episode next week. At least the editing for this episode was better than the previous two.

That pretty much covers it. For whatever reason Y&R isn't exactly known for discovering breakout talent and launching primetime/film careers. Worst recast ever. The nepotism made awful even worse.

I can't wait for those episodes 😍

Terry Lester joined Santa Barbara not long after he left Y&R and was there for a year. He joined As the World Turns in the fall of 1992 and was there until the spring of 1994. Terry guest starred on some primetime shows in the late 1990s but he must have been dealing with health issues in the early 2000s as he passed away in 2003.

I wonder if Nikki getting drunk and making a fool of herself was Bill Bell's way of planting the seed for Nikki's substance abuse that started later that year.

Whomever is editing these episodes is doing a terrible job. They seem so disjointed. Today's episode reminded me why I never cared for Peter Bergman. There's an innate smugness that just wafts through the screen. Seeing Terry Lester (RIP) yesterday and PB today highlights the huge difference between their portrayals of Jack. Whoa, EB seems to be anti-aging 😂 He was 49 in this episode and had been on Y&R for 10 years at this point yet he looked way better than he did in the 1980s. He was so dashing and debonair in his tux 🥰

Cricket wasn't eating the show as much by 1990 as she did in the late 1980s. It occurred to me last year that Bill Bell used elements of the Reed sisters for the Barber sisters. The new doctor in town and her troublemaking younger sister. A key difference is that the Barber sisters were connected to an existing character in their aunt Mamie. Come to think of it, Nina Arvesen would have made a good Ashley recast. She would at least be more believable as the other woman in the eternal triangle and the wicked witch who took little Victoria's daddy away. Brenda Epperson looked too innocent and sweet for that aspect of Ashley, that's probably why Bill Bell wrote her Ashley as more of a typical soap heroine. Although I didn't particularly care for Victor/Cassandra as a couple (their relationship seemed more rebound than actual feelings for each other) I thought EB had more chemistry w/ NA than BE.

@Soapsuds Hahaha. That's 1980s cheesy pop goodness right there. If anyone here was a fan of 2000s hip hop, you'll remember these songs. I think they sum up this week's theme 🤣

Cricket ate the show from 1987 to 1989. That era also saw a change in EPs (H. Wesley Kenney to Ed Scott) and three major cast departures (Brenda Dickson, Eileen Davidson, Terry Lester).

It was posted here before that Bill Bell's original plan wasn't to pair Victor and Nikki, but he changed their story when MTS became pregnant in real life. Perhaps BB's original plan was Victor/Lorie. MTS and Ed Scott weren't together until about 1984 I think; they were married in the fall of 1985. Watching the 1987 episode. The editing is really bad, the episode doesn't really flow together. What a treat it is to see the late great Terry Lester. If I remember correctly, the last time Y&R aired a classic episode w/ TL was Christmas Day 1998 when they reaired the episode from December 23, 1988. I'm skipping the Cricket scenes. The Victor/Nikki scenes I feel like I've seen some of them online. MTS and ED were rocking that big ass 1980s hair 😂 EB was 46 here and he looks better than he did in the 1981 episode. Consider this, JM is 46 now and maybe it's late 1980s vs. 2020 styling but holy difference 🤣 Can't wait for 1990 tomorrow, even though it's an episode I remember watching when it originally aired.

Just watched the 1981 episode. Whoa, Vanessa is scary. If I saw her storyline live, I would probably have nightmares 😂 Bill Bell used elements of Vanessa for Stephanie but Stephanie as Bill Bell wrote her was never that scary. Victor pretending to be the man servant 🤣 Victor and Nikki were so cute in this episode. Funny that Nikki didn't make a comment that Mr. Victor the decorator/man servant has a similar name to Victor Newman. EB was 40 and MTS was 25 in this episode. The age difference is quite apparent here, maybe that's due to early 1980s styling.

Well Bill Bell did reuse the Jill/Phillip and Jill/Stuart storylines for Brooke/Eric. I also think he changed Brooke's storyline because KKL became pregnant in real life.

For B&B fans in French-speaking countries, here's a good resource https://www.soap-passion.com/amour-gloire-et-beaute/ As of now, France is at February 4, 2019, Luxembourg is at March 11, 2019, and Switzerland is at January 30, 2020. Looks like Switzerland will be getting repeats in a few months. One of the French language channels in Canada is at March 13, 2019.

Bill Bell liked the messy matriarchs LOL.

You're welcome @BoldRestless As of now, France is at June 20, 2017, Belgium is at July 6, 2017, and Switzerland is at July 11, 2017. One of the French language channels in Canada is at June 18, 2012. Any Canadians here watching the French episodes in addition to the Global day-ahead episodes?

@BoldRestless From the descriptions on https://www.tf1.fr/tf1/les-feux-de-l-amour , I'd say the episodes are from June 2017. Also https://www.soap-passion.com/les-feux-de-l-amour/ for other French speaking countries.

Bill Bell used elements of Vanessa/Lance/Lucas for Stephanie/Ridge/Thorne and the Lance/Lucas/Leslie/Lorie quadrangle for the Ridge/Thorne/Caroline/Brooke quadrangle. Oddly enough John McCook played son to Vanessa and husband to Stephanie; I know John McCook left Y&R in 1980 so the 1981 episode will have the recast Lance. From what I've read about Vanessa, she's probably the scariest of Bill Bell's wealthy matriarchs (Jennifer, Katherine, Vanessa, Dina, Stephanie).

In a way, I'm relieved I stopped watching live as of Fall 1992. It would have been painful to witness the destruction as it unfolded. Speaking of which, this month marks 25 years since JFP left as EP.

Nikki and Paul were originally together in 1978/1979 and reunited briefly in 2008 to 2009. I don't count the rewrite of the Summer 1980 cult storyline that resulted in Nikki and Paul having Dylan.

I still miss Terry Lester to this day but I prefer Jess Walton to Brenda Dickson. I also can't believe that Amelia Heinle has played Victoria the longest of all the actresses in that role, and that by this fall Heather Tom will have played Katie just as long as she played Victoria (13 years).

Victor and Sharon were never shown in bed together. There was one scene where they held hands and walked upstairs together so the bedroom activities were implied. Victor and Jack have both been with Nikki, Leanna, Diane, Sharon, Genevieve.

I'll watch episodes up to 2005. 2006 onward are not classics. Between LML, Josh Griffith, MAB, Paul Rauch, JFP, Chuck Pratt, Mal Young, Sally Sussman, Anthony Morina, I would say MAB is the lesser of nine evils despite her love for former sitcom actors and ABC leftovers.

@Soapsuds Hahaha. Besides, I think that beef was aired out and squashed some years back.