Darn

I wonder which character has returned from the dead the most. I love when someone will return from the dead and once that plot has been resolved it's never mentioned again. Someone else on the show could die in the exact same manner (car crash, plane crash, drowning, etc.) and it's never said "Well, so-and-so died the same way and they came back!". Every death is treated like an absolute certainty. It's very funny.

Yeah, today was especially weird. Spencer was pretty explicitly saying "We're more than friends" and Trina kept bringing it back to "We're just friends". The hold up is really fücking absurd here.

4 young beautiful women with nothing to do. And yeah I'm gonna beat a dead horse. It deserves it.

Yeah, that would have looked really tacky.

In an ideal world it would have been the culmination or high point of a months long story about Lauren or her family. But no, like everything else, it was people sitting around talking about events that happened in the past.

This guy playing Dex talks like his last two brain cells are bumping into each other. Carly and Josslyn are complete sociopaths. You can't write a sweet mother/daughter scene between these two because they are batshît crazy. Joss STILL doesn't think she cheated on Cameron! Do they think if they say it enough it'll be true? And Carly barely reacted to it. And Joss is sitting there crying for herself and Dex, she doesn't give two shîts about Cam. I don't understand the writing for this at all. It doesn't matter when you FELT like the relationship was over, it matters whether or not it was actually OVER. They're writing her like she's delusional but they won't acknowledge the delusional. Pease don't tell me that Spencer and Trina are going to get married so Spencer can get custody of his sibling. It looks like Marcus Coloma's exit really was unexpected because there are no signs to Nik leaving at all with them ramping up this story and the one with Liz's mom. Cameron Mathison with his elderly man voice can go away now. I don't care about this whole Lucy escapade. It looks worse than clips from the 70s except now our heroes are in their 60s. It all feels so silly.

I think he's great, I will never say a bad word about him because he's one of the few who commit to the work even when it's terrible. Watching people like Michelle Stafford sabotage the material with her hammy nonsense or Joshua Morrow sleepwalk through every scene makes me respect him all the more.

Back when characters had a point of view and personalities. Now they just commiserate, emphasis on the misery, about their employment status. He's just suddenly gay. And I don't even think it was to generate buzz, they're just unimaginative. They're never going to use him so it's basically pointless.

The fact that there is no commentary on Nick (or Jack back when he and Sally were a thing) dating a woman nearly half his age speaks to just how toothless this show has become. The Young and The Ageless. Because Y&R only has children and adults who could be anywhere between 25 and 45. Hard stop at 45. And that's being generous because Noah's 30 but his parents? 40.

40th anniversary with no story, purpose or drive. But yay she's still here!

No, but this is crazy. Anna and Valentine not only got a hotel set for this story (that frankly isn't remotely interesting and I like Lucy, who I guess has been tied up and gaged for 4 months? This is stupid, I'm sorry), they got a church set! And now catacombs!) But everyone in Genoa City lives in one of the 4 restaurants in town! What is going?! Now Dante and Sam are going to LONDON??? Meaning more (potential) sets! Glad that Cameron got to say his piece. He was completely in the right and Joss did not care about anything about his feelings, just her stupid mobster boyfriend. I really have to praise GH for their familial connections. They've been good about family not just being biology. For instance, I've always liked that Mac is a father figure to Robin and a father, perhaps not legally, to Maxie (and Georgie) and thus they were cousins and acted like it. Not to praise Sonny or the hell Michael's existence has thrust upon this show but there's no question that Sonny is his parent. And I really love that Laura is Cameron's grandmother and they don't feel the need to say "Well, not biologically". Liz adores Laura and I think she would have served as a grandmother to him regardless but Lucky was an involved father to him during his childhood, he was his dad and didn't care about DNA because he loved Liz. And I hope they've kept that connection off-screen. I don't want some scenario whenever Jonathon comes back or they decided to recast where they act like Lucky was some deadbeat or only fatherly toward Aiden. It's not in his nature.

Is the show them sitting around reminiscing?

I started watching during this storyline. I think right after Barbara was injured in the explosion. The scenes of an injured Barbara talking to James with the moody lighting and intense music were so intriguing. I enjoyed it quite a bit as someone who'd never watched the show before. And I loved Simon and Katie (I know), Rose and Paul, Hal and Emily. I never liked Lily and Holden, she was obnoxious and he was a deathly dull actor. The show actually lost me when they fired Scott Holroyd (who WAS smokin') for that ham Roger Howarth. And I just realized I wasn't invested in the show for very long!

They've all had work done definitely, the men and women, but her's stands out to me because her face, somehow, has no lines and is tight as a drum.

Oh so they're just lazy. Noted.

Holy crap the dialogue for Joss...do they not realize that she is a monster? She doesn't even view sleeping with someone else while with her boyfriend as cheating. What an absolute psycho.

I don't know where else to post this but daytime is so bizarre. There are 4 soaps left and despite 70+ years of their existence they've only had a handful of Asian characters YET right now there are two Asian characters on different shows named Li. What in the world are the chances?

Her plastic surgery has made her face basically immobile BUT at the time she looks ageless, not pulled and prodded like a Nicole Kidman. It's almost as if she's wearing a mask of her own face from 1992.

Meant to reply to this, thank you. And yeah I'd stay too, especially with writing soaps being the only thing on their resume and many of them being at or near retirement age. I'll write your garbage Bradley!

She looks amazing. I hate when people say this but she's hardly aged. She looks maybe 5 years older and it's been 20. Maurice jokes about Michael trying to take him down for cheating with Nina but forgiving him for killing AJ. Neither of them remember hardly anything about their stories.

Thanks @Broderick I didn't know about her! And while not a Y&R production team nepo baby Steven Ford (Andy) definitely is one. Devon and Lily are on several times per week and have what you might calls "stories" but they hardly have defining character traits. They just exist as token black people. No drive, no purpose, no internal life. I guess that could be said for all of the characters on Y&R right now but most of them had some defining characteristic at one point. Devon hasn't had a consistent personality since he was 16. And Lily only lived to sustain whatever that relationship was that she had with Cain for most of her time on the show. Now she only exists so Billy has someone to talk to.

How much do headwriters make? I remember reading at one point it was in excessive of 1 million a year but is that still the case in this zombie genre?

That makes a lot of sense, especially for the time and trajectory of Erica's career. Thank you!

Girl, bye. Actually it would be pretty ballsy if she did die. Both of Nina's daughters dead and she didn't get a chance to know either of them. Ha! Suffer.