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TV Guide Magazine print issue covering December 18-January 7.

I was editing my post while you posted. I added that in each case, only one or two actors were chosen/volunteered/allowed to speak encouragement to each nominee. (the same was true for the Y&R video). I don't know if more would have spoken up for Krista if given the opportunity.

On the morning of December 15 (same day as Emmys) the B&B instagram posted a video of B&B actors wishing their coworker B&B Emmy nominees good wishes. (The Y&R ig account did the same with Y&R actors wishing their coworker Y&R nominees good wishes). In each case, one or two actors were chosen/volunteered/allowed to speak encouragement to a nominee. In this video Matt Atkinson was the one to wish Krista Allen good wishes. I was wondering why he seemed so serious, now we know why. https://www.instagram.com/p/C04snRFvIpt/

Regarding two of my recent posts: my post listing the various Phillip Chancellors (I, II, III, and IV) - and my post about the Abbott siblings and Mamie - Both of those show how central the character of Jill is to all of this. I know Jess Walton lives in Oregon but I'm glad she's been airing recently. I don't know how long she'll be around, but it's good to see her when we can.

Ah thanks. That was a period I wasn't watching. Appreciate the correction!

Cirie Fields interviewed about this appearance: https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/exclusive-cirie-fields-on-her-bold-and-beautiful-cameo/ She memorized the wrong character's lines. Her son was on set helping her (but he's not in the show).

Attempting to list *only* things relevant to current storylines, for benefit of Donna and anyone else who came to Y&R because of Colleen Zenk. Otherwise, discussion goes on the Y&R history/BTS/articles thread. John Abbott was married to Dina. (Dina's maiden name unknown?) They had three children: Jack (Peter Bergman), Ashley (Eileen), and Traci (Beth Maitland). It was later revealed that Ashley's biofather was someone else, but John never learned this and the info was kept from him for the rest of his life. Everyone knows now. At any rate, Ashley is an Abbott in every way that matters, regardless of biology. Dina was bored, left her husband and children, moved to Paris, ran a business, and had a fun and rich life. Dina later married Marcel Mergeron, so she's referred to as Dina Mergeron. Dina died of Alzheimer's a few years ago. John Abbott hired Mamie Johnson to run his household. She was hired as the maid/cook but because Dina left, Mamie became a mother figure to Jack, Ashley, and especially to Traci. Several years after Phillip Chancellor II died, Jill married John Abbott. Jill and John were married twice, long story, won't detail that here. Even when Jill and John were divorced, Jill was annoyed when John was with someone else. At some point during all this, Jill became aware that John and Mamie were falling in love. Jill payed Mamie millions of dollars to leave town, and Mamie left. This is the Jill/Mamie rivalry/resentment currently playing out onscreen. Mamie is the aunt of Victoria Rowell's character Drucilla Barber Winters. Mamie is also the aunt of Drucilla's sister Olivia. Drucilla died falling into a volcano. EDIT - sorry for my error. Correction: Drucilla was last shown falling off a cliff. (not into a volcano). Drucilla is presumed dead. Olivia has been offscreen for ages working for Doctors Without Borders. Lily is Drucilla's daughter. Devon is Drucilla's adopted son. Nate is Olivia's son. So Mamie is the great-aunt of Lily, Devon, and Nate. And was a mother-figure to Jack, Ashley, and Traci. Billy Abbott is the son of John Abbott and Jill. Billy Abbott would be the halfbrother of Thom Bierdz's character but they never met. Edit: I forgot that Phillip III (Thom Bierdz) visited Genoa City 2009-2011 and and then returned to Australia. He may have met Billy Abbott then? -------------------------------------------- If you go by date born onscreen, Chance *should be* (but obviously isn't) five years older than his uncle Billy. Jill's first son Phillip Chancellor III (Thom Bierdz) was born in 1976 when she was younger. Jill's second son Billy Abbott was was born in 1993, late in life to Jill. Jill's grandson Phillip IV (Chance) was born in 1998 (the same year as Nick Newman). He should be the same age as Nick Newman and one year younger than Sharon. But Billy was SORASed a lot when Jason Thompson took over the role. And Chance was deSORASed a lot when Conner Floyd took over the role. It has been discussed that their ages are off, and we could vent/discuss it forever with no resolution. It is what it is, so I won't belabor the point here. Trying to stay on track with what is *currently* airing in December 2023. Billy and Chance are about to work together at Chancellor-Winters, so that should be interesting.

Phillip Chancellor I never aired. Phillip Chancellor II was married to (and divorced from) Jeanne Cooper's character Katherine. Phillip II was lovers with Jill. Phillip II married Jill before he died, but unclear if that was legal or not. Phillip II and Jill are the parents of Phillip III. Phillip II died before Phillip III was born. Phillip Chancellor III was played by Thom Bierdz, and known as Phillip. Phillip Chancellor IV is nicknamed "Chance". Sorry for the details but the Chancellor/Jill history is rich and still being played out now.

Thom Bierdz's character was Jill's son Phillip Chancellor III, the biological father of Chance. He didn't raise Chance. When he was a young man he was killed in car accident. Decades later it was revealed that actually he had realized he was gay, faked his death in the car accident, and moved to Australia to start a new life. Edit to add, as mentioned by BoldRestless, before that happened, he had dated Cricket and impregnated and married Nina.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/19/trump-colorado-presidential-ballot-disqualified-14th-amendment The 4-3 decision by the Colorado supreme court ... “A majority of the court holds that Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,” the court, whose justices were all appointed by Democratic governors, wrote in its ruling. The ruling applies only to the state’s 5 March Republican primary, but its conclusion would likely also affect Trump’s status for the 5 November general election. Nonpartisan US election forecasters view Colorado as safely Democratic, meaning that Joe Biden will likely carry the state regardless of Trump’s fate.

fyi, that's pretty much a copy/paste of this: https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/news/708989/eric-dies-john-mccook-health-rumors/

never mind, it's fine now.

^ photo for Wed. Dec. 20 episode via tvinsider Ashley Jones interview with Michael Maloney for TV Insider, regarding Bridget and the Eric storyline. https://www.tvinsider.com/1115333/bold-and-the-beautiful-eric-dying-john-mccook-leaving-ashley-jones-bridget/ More Dec. 20 photos here with the two guest stars from Big Brother: https://www.paramountpressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/photos?episode=24217

Back in 2022, I posted this on another thread: @Errol fixed it back then after I posted about it. The issue now (December 2023) is not the same as it was then, but still, somewhat similar. All I see in the primetime menu now is the name of each network (with no thread titles visible). And then below that I see the names of threads for non-network shows. I could not find the thread for the proposed AMC reboot anywhere today. Finally found it when i opened the ABC Primetime submenu link, and then there was a display of multiple different threads for ABC primetime shows. When this worked more efficiently, you could click on "primetime" and see what threads are currently active. Now you have to click on a network header to see that.

I posted everything I could find about the Gold and Silver Circle in the first two posts of this page.

The above list of six people are the Gold and Silver Circle honorees for the Daytime Emmys. There were also a separate group of Gold and Silver Circle honorees for the Children's & Family Emmys. Their names are listed here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/natas-2023-gold-silver-circle-inductees-1235660972/ Both sets of Gold and Silver Circle honorees (Daytime and Children&Family) were fêted at a private luncheon on December 14. https://theemmys.tv/emmy-weekend-2023/ Per other information on the Emmys website, there were Gold and Silver Circle honorees for News and Documentary Emmys, celebrated in September 2023. https://theemmys.tv/news-44th-gold-silver-circle/ I don't know if there are Gold and Silver honorees in other divisions of the Emmys. Up until October 13, 2023 they were accepting applications/suggestions/recommendations for more potential Gold and Silver honorees (apparently for the primetime Emmys? ). The decision on those have not yet been announced. https://theemmys.tv/honors/ The blurb says: To be considered for induction in the 2023 Silver Circle, a candidate’s career must have begun prior to 1998. For 2023 Gold Circle consideration, a candidate’s career must have begun prior to 1973. An individual’s entire career need not have been spent with a single company or network. The selection committee will consider the following criteria for all individuals recommended for induction into the Silver and Gold Circle. Service to the television or media-related industries. Service to the community involving television or allied media Service to people working in or training for careers in television or allied media. There will be no outside circulation of ballots, lists of names under consideration, etc. All discussion of candidates will remain confidential. Only the names of those to be inducted will be announced.

The Gold and Silver Circle Honors for the Emmys https://theemmys.tv/honors/ The Silver Circle recognizes those professionals who have performed distinguished service within the television industry for 25 years or more. Gold Circle members have served the industry for 50 years or more. From the Daytime Emmys event announcement page: About the Gold and Silver Circle The Gold and Silver Circle is a society of honor. Inductees are exceptional professionals who have performed distinguished service within the television industry, setting standards for achievement, mentoring, leadership, and professional accolades for 50 or 25 years respectively. They represent the best and brightest in the industry. NATAS will kick off the weekend with a private luncheon to honor its 2023 Daytime and Children’s & Family inductees into the Gold & Silver Circle honor society on Thursday, December 14. https://theemmys.tv/emmy-weekend-2023/ For the Daytime Emmys, in December 2023, Four Gold Circle honorees and Two Silver Circle honorees. Below are the statements about each per the official Daytime Emmys facebook page: ____________________________________________ Gold Circle honorees for the Daytime Emmys: Gold Circle: Wendy Riche, producer/writer/executive producer, will be inducted into the Gold Circle for her enduring contributions to daytime television. Riche’s career spans more than five decades, developing hundreds of comedic and dramatic series, movies for television, and miniseries as a producer, writer, and executive producer. As executive producer of General Hospital during the 1990s, Riche was recognized and honored with five Daytime Emmy® Awards for “Outstanding Drama Series,” bringing General Hospital back into the forefront of Daytime Drama. https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid0KRZqBcJ1Cv8TSZ9wB8upxaka2QeJVXjTgbbCs35aFsPCnkXP2WrWTu8gm2tjYJTWl Gold Circle: Vernée Watson began her career more than 50 years ago in a theater group based in Harlem, NY. After doing more than 200 commercials, she moved to LA to continue her career. She currently appears on the CBS hit comedy, Bob (Hearts) Abishola. For two consecutive years she won the Daytime Emmy® for her role as “Stella” on General Hospital, and an Encore award for her direction of the play “Independence.” https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid0mtBpMVq4eyxAtFWaZ1JJ9y91YgadcbpH3yd68dPyZGizsD4HyZBAGK88WdHs4CfGl Gold Circle: Al Schwartz, a longtime television executive, will be inducted into the Gold Circle for his enduring contributions to daytime television. Schwartz’s award-winning legendary career spanned genres from news, working at CBS’ WBBM-TV in Chicago, to sports with NFL football, Baseball Game of the Week with Dizzy Dean and Pewee Reese, to children’s shows, and talk shows, variety programs and documentaries. https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid024T8JDY6uYMGQmCe4nr47i9q73G6pML7qKoTf3uMs66HapxgcUY3UZY1urLMU3GY4l Gold Circle: Tanya Hart’s career has spanned broadcast, streaming, syndication, podcast and cable programs. She has appeared as herself on All My Children; was a correspondent and alternate host of E! Entertainment’s The Gossip Show. She also was a regular contributor on The Geraldo Rivera Show and co-hosted the Academy Awards for ABC-TV with the late Roger Ebert. Hart created BET’s West Coast studio and produced content including over 300 episodes of Live From L.A. With Tanya Hart. https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid02Dg39CCo2hFqABUyQEH8arCSJ7YDeqp94bATxPz28iBe9pPPkbC2qsDGYp7kbAfYel ____________________________________________ Silver Circle honorees for the Daytime Emmys: Silver Circle: Patrick Weiland, President of Intuitive Content and a producer/director, will be inducted into the Silver Circle for his enduring contributions to daytime television. Beginning as an investigative journalist with CBS News and NBC News and later working as a director, Weiland is a creator and executive producer of the PBS documentary series, Hope in the Water. He created the award-winning documentary series, What’s Eating America. Weiland has a wide range of compelling program highlights including in-depth hour long investigative reports to live breaking news broadcast in primetime network television. https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid064q7ZtCoMJREMKJ4C7u1ZqBvjZwqycrryNDUrmgeVtLApnxA4siE82tygsMQpNuRl Silver Circle: Christina Knack, a longtime television executive with The Young and The Restless was born and raised in Los Angeles. After interviewing with legendary producer, William J. Bell, she was soon hired to join the daytime drama. While there, Knack has worked as an associate production coordinator, casting associate and is in her current position of Production Coordinator for the past nineteen years. https://www.facebook.com/DaytimeEmmyAwards/posts/pfbid02giBitK2u9tVp5PzVGxZqpvknnSJERYoK6tMpjNhRaNPyFpD2nMLhEz9XBe5vfAH4l

No. Viki was one aspect but not the center. My time watching was 1969-1975. 1976-1982 was sporadic, I didn't have a TV, I lived in a college town, sometimes went to the campus and watched the soaps in a dormitory common room. The Lords and the Woleks were the contrast of rich and working class. I saw it as an even balance. With the Rileys and the Craigs as other families to round it out. They were all home to me. And Carla Gray was part of all that. And when I was watching, they featured both sisters equally - Viki and Meredith. Meredith was dating Larry Wolek. Vince Wolek was Joe Riley's best friend. I adored Wanda And I remember Anna Wolek Craig, her face and voice and demeanor was so vivid from my childhood. And decades later the actress looked and sounded the same. I about fell over when I saw her in the movie Tootsie. And the same as a judge on Law and Order. It was uncanny. Wanda dated Vince Wolek, but meanwhile Viki became Niki Smith and also dated Vince. As a child with no internet, this wasn't something I knew about, but my older sister and I conversed and came to understand that multiple personalities is a diagnosis (nowadays called DID but not back then). I was team Wanda. I related more to the working class characters.

egads thanks for the warnings!

Yeah, it seems like clickbait at first the way it's introduced. That writer tends to write clickbait articles. But Susan Lucci did talk about it on December 11, 2023, if you scroll down that soaps.sheknows article to the youtube embedded within it. Lucci was on GMA3 (third hour of Good Morning America). To keep it simple, I'll just post the youtube here: They start talking about the AMC reboot at 3:05. Lucci says she's been told it's still alive.

Susan Lucci interview - by Michael Maloney for TV Insider (December 14, the day before the Emmy ceremony) https://www.tvinsider.com/1114927/susan-lucci-daytime-emmys-2023-lifetime-achievement-award-erica-kane-general-hospital/

The character of Finn seems to me to be an annoying gnat. I don't want Elizabeth with him. I hope Leslie C.'s return as Monica is for family stuff and for no more stuff about Finn Please do not use up Monica and Tracy episodes with Finn. (sigh)

preview of some Y&R scenes for week of Dec. 18

Update: The reason Jacqueline MacInnes Wood thanked Kimberlin Brown is probably (?) because Kimberlin was on her reel... In the Emmy winners interview area at the Emmys, JMW told soaphub what her reel was. Part of the reel was about Kimberlin shooting Steffy and Finn and the aftermath. and other stuff that year. I didn't quite hear everything JMW said. That's the first time I've seen JMW's reel mentioned. To keep everything together, I posted that interview on page five of what has become the "reels thread" https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/65437-daytime-emmys-to-now-air-on-december-15th/page/5

Update: Jacqueline MacInnes Wood *after* winning interviewed by Soaphub at the Emmys - Posting here because she describes her reel: https://www.instagram.com/p/C05n0sLsGnn/