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Oh, yes, I've been down an online hole on it as I'm formatting and watching a movie. The backlash she's getting for those videos. I'm speechless and shocked. I don't even want to post them here. And I can't even watch the Thomas Jefferson one. But yes, she looks horrible. AND the reunion has not filmed. And I guess we know it will definitely film before her sentencing on January 29th. They are going to tear her apart.

RHOP Wow...they released the Body cam of the DUI, too?

12-16 Oh my God! Don't tell me that Mariah is about to get a story. Not that it's the first time she's been kidnapped. lol. I'm happy they played the beat of Alan hypnotized Sharon. And yes...another plot movement in Sharon remembering that she did not run the Giggly Heffa off the road. Finally something!!! And I liked that Sharon is willing to do it again to see if Heather was really killed by her. Go on plot...THICKEN. That said...I could have done without those Jordan/Ian flashbacks and that horrible cgi, but at least it explains how they came together. It should have just been done sooner than now. Billy and the Giggly Heffa was background noise until she gave Billy a reason to back down from losing to fighting Victor. That resonated actually. And we know how I feel about Billy and his woe is me act.

RHOP

Yeah, it seems like all the soaps lost their November momentum. It's sad to watch.

Meh. He stays having 'issues' with Jack. He can go away.

Isn't that what she's 'known' for? I wouldn't mind. I liked that one week where there was an episode of Gio/Trina talking and there was a spark. And then the episode before that was a scene where Trina/Kai were talking...no writing gimmicks...and they had a little spark too. So I feel it's possible and I would love to see Trina in the middle for a change.

Indeed. You're right. I meant EK. Haven't had my sarced coffee as of yet. lol.

Oh, lord...don't tell me they are trying to pit Kyle against Billy already.

12-13 Uneven. But I guess if I had to choose after playing unexpected catch-up on this past week how I would go with ER vs CVE as lead, I am going to have to go with ER with her Carly stan self. Because the episodes where her name is lead in the credits usually have some form of emotional resonance to their writing regardless of the stupid stuff that runs through both of their writings. I don't like the 'Where's Charlotte' storyline, but I did like the Dante/Lulu scenes. AB played that mix of feisty Spencer, being a friend to Dante over being in love with Sam now, and of course adjusting to it all very well. And I felt those scenes were allowed to breath as two people who loved each other once trying to relate to each other again. Love the fallout scenes at Q Manor. And as I saw mentioned...yes, Tracy and Ned's reactions were the total highlights. I also enjoyed them ripping Drew to shreds. I enjoyed Carly going off. I felt Michael was the weak link in some good scenes. He only brought it at the end. And speaking of stupid stuff in the writing? Of course, I'm talking about that sharp return to the wacka wacka humor 'style' just forced into all the above good scenes per Ava, Ric, and Lucas. As I was wondering what was going on Ava, Ric, and the bounced cards...in walks Lucas. And I rolled my eyes at the rl meet-cute cuz MW and VH were ATWT actors though duh they are related on this show...taking me out of scene. Cuz again, did they really have this many scenes under OldLucas? But the revelation that the reason Carly is broke is because of the Cassandines can only mean Nik is being petty OR Val is coming. RME. And silly continued with Trina and Kai. They just can't do gradual on this show, can they? Like seeing Trina. Those scenes were bad. So Dex is dead, dead. And I found the Joss/Anna scenes where Anna just popped up, though she had been at the hospital weirdly jarring. And EM was oddly underwhelming. But Liz's face when she realized that what was happening with Dex is the same as what went down with Sam was priceless. And Nina/Willow vs Carly as the coda. Can't say I hate that. A classic Friday cliffhanger cuz it's Nina vs Carly really...with kids in the middle after a good fallout. Overall, a good week though. Does that (scarily) make ER the stronger writer? LOL!!! Them facts. And it's funny you said that about O'Connor given what I just wrote. And perhaps it is just because I had the idle time to notice the writing style after all this time of watching and observing, but yeah, I definitely have grown to dislike CVE's writing style. And now it's a case of two evils here lol.

Okay, I vaguely remember that last part, but thank you both for the tea all the same. So they really were sitting on a possible story that wrote itself per usual (Trina/Gio) and just kept making things up then. Same.

It seem like he might be Trina's new love interest to me, but they rarely played them together and lost the potential for organic conflict with them on different sides of Sonny vs Ava with his loyalty and history to Sonny and her history and friendship to Ava. But I do wonder if that was really the original plan. I would be curious.

Don't jinx him. He's doing so well. I don't know what you are talking about. 😜

Never. At all.

12-12 I saw that name and went RME. But let me give CVE some credit. Throughout the episode, there was a sense of dread over that Q X-mas party. So that I can't hate on. There was a sense of something WAS coming. For me, it was just the execution. Like mentioned above, if this was old school soap, the video reveal would have happened at a big event. People dressed to the nines. And a few other secrets coming out at the same time. And I honestly felt PM doing Drew as a Congressman who had eyes for Nina AND her daughter was setting up for that to happen Election Night. So just about anything other than THAT was going to pale. And given the buildup to Drew/Willow sex to Michael/Sasha sex to the video itself to the story vanishing for two weeks and just simmering as a C plot to THIS. Overall, anticlimactic. Episode-wise, it was decent in how it built to it. It was just destroyed by the pacing and the nuts and bolts. Why did it have to a grumpy Tracy thing rather than a crafty Tracy maneuver? Why couldn't it just be Michael going dark rather than trying to be all meek about it? Now Drew wants to go obsessive and lash out at Nina after NO buildup? How can Chase/BLQ be flirty like that and yet I feel nothing? And I assume that alarm at the hospital means Dex is bye-bye. Well...at least, Joss got some couple moments before it happened. And I really loved him bonding with Felicia over this past week of episodes. It felt organic even if it was a plot thread to make Felicia the next target. They have been teasing Natalia's son for a year now. So I expect him to spring up at some point. Perhaps as a love interest for Lucas? In any case, I'm not here for Sonny and St. Maria of the PushUp Bra...which is how Blaze's mama is now being written. Since when does Ava not have money? If not from her family or the art gallery...or Sonny...then at least from the divorce for Nikolas??? I admit...I'm curious. That said...I love the seductive dance going on between her and Ric. And because I can't say it enough...SHUT UP, KRISTINA.

12-11 All right, Historian, I see you. This episode still has some of that goofiness (in this case Martin/Anna/Jason), but there was a more emotional resonance going on. Or perhaps because a good amount of this episode was back to Lulu adjusting to her life post-coma. And that reunion with Maxie resonated so hard. And the scene with them on the couch and Lulu was talking about love. Her vibe. Her looks. She was giving so much JMB Lulu...I had to remind myself it was not the same actress. Those scenes were well done. I've even enjoyed Carly and Lulu defualt (a little) to the Mini-Carly she used to be. AB has just been selling the Lulu return so well. Sadly, Lulu's story has gone from background C plot to just B plot because it now seems the A plot is 'Where's is Charlotte' rme with the focus on Anna/Jason and Brennan/Henchwoman this episode. I didn't mind it at all. Anna was actually being like herself again. Though the execution with Jason/Martin was that 'style.' But I thought it was clever how they are going about tracking Charlotte down. But I also thought it was clever how Brennan plans to track Charlotte down as well. I think I have gone on record as saying how much I love right-hand henchwomen...preferably evil ones...but this henchwoman of Brennan can leave. And while I don't like Pikeman being mentioned, I do love that the writers have not changed the throughline in case it was not clear (but given the writing battles we know why) that Valentin WAS the Head of Pikeman. And as always I live for Charles Masure in a suit. And I also live for a cameraman who is good at angles. The Curtis intrigues brought the C plot. And I loved him bringing Portia in on the know. But it's sad watching Drew and Nina now cuz of the woulda coulda shoulda of it. And now they just seem to be slowly going back to their old pre-PM beat of just disliking each other. Drew continued to be more and more slimy. But I'll give it to the cameraman again because halfway thru the episode well...I was surprised. That was uh abrupt. You know it's A plot when it gets the coda in the weekly episodes. I just can't believe it's about Charlotte...

Wow. I too knew Diane from POPULAR so that is sad to hear.

I was thinking about you when I saw this. lol. Didn't you just put this out into the Universe the other day. As for me...YASSSSSSSSS!!!!

I can tell this is going to be my kind of thread. Early thanks, Titan.

Yeah, I see nothing, but backlash to anything happening with Felicia. Now an attempt to kill her might be drama, but I expect Felicia to put up one heck of a fight. And SURVIVE.

12-13 Yeah, that week was very much giving...setting up the next set of dominos to drop. Like GH, Y&R totally lost the momentum they had going with the wedding. But...at least it looks pretty. I'll give Billy this much. At least he's a good enough friend that he went to deal with the Giggly Heffa. But ugh at a Sally/Billy/Giggly Heffa triangle. Other than that...did they just completely get rid of the Chancellor Park set for us to be still dealing with this cgi cuz darn. I love the Audra moment. But I loved that whole dynamic throughout this episode. I think it was THE story beat this week actually. We saw Nate and Audra growing closer as a couple all week. And it felt like a nice climax to that on Friday with Audra opening up in front of Devon and Lily and them accepting her. I'm sure there will still be some drama between them all, but it was a nice moment of growth. I was Team Michael in the Michael vs Phyllis scenes. We rarely get the fire from him and Lauren anymore.

12-10 Hehe. Erica Kane. That said...I saw a lot of flash, but no substance. But now that I'm getting an 'ear' by what to expect from which HWs' names is first, at least I know now who to throw blame and shade at moving forward as the characteristics of what the plot is for the episodes become clearer. And that works for me cuz that means I know who is bringing that stupid humor style I keep loathing that has started to crop up again. Because outside of the Erica Kane shoutout, it was soooo not needed. And while I don't like how things are going with Carly/Brennan, those scenes of them arguing really should not have come across like a scene from a CW show or any teen soap, but yet...smh. Now that I see what you all are talking about with Felicia...and given what happened with Dex when he mentioned his suspicions...DON'T YOU HURT FELICIA, YOU HACKS!!! Then it felt like the momentum got lost with Lulu's Awakening. We should still be dealing with her adjusting. But now it is turning into the 'Where's Charlotte?' storyline. And AB is selling that Spencer spitfire and that mama's love, but I just don't care for Charlotte. If she ain't coming home before X-mas, they could have saved this part of Lulu's story until next year and build it into February Sweeps. Right now, Lulu's story should be about adjustment and getting more time with her mother and her brother(S). Cuz no amount of good (cuz Lulu vs Nina WAS good) takes away from the overall plotting. Which is also why I was disappointed to see Brennan found out about that bug with the quickness. And while that was also built into the plot, it still felt too soon for me. But I will always take Charles Mesure in that suit cuz Mmmm Beast. It's contrived for the sake of it when there are other ways and conflicts they can use to build Carly/Brennan into a couple. And the contrived techniques continued with the story with Trina and Kai. So he surprised you by having his part of the art project ready and still focused on his football teammates...his goals AND your goals...and Trina STILL has an issue. There could have been a way to do that where you see a hint of respect and maybe love? start from Trina's end, but it just felt so contrived though I'm liking Trina with a POV. But I still wouldn't mind since Trina is actually getting story, the story turning into a triangle between her, Kai, and Gio. The only good Drew is a shirtless Drew for me because I loathe him any time he popped up on screen now. So funny from how I felt about Drew in the spring. He's gone from a prick to a creep and it's very ewwww. But giving Q at least. And I admit that the idea of a Michael/Curtis Drew takedown looks intriguing this episode. Perhaps because it gives Curtis something to do...and it looked like DT was actually invested again. Okay...NOW...Brad is coming across as a stalker. And I admit...I am loving the X-mas-ness of the last few episodes. Not the stupid college kids. But I love seeing Felicia with her grandkids. And it just reminds me how much good writing James and Georgie got this year that I actually go awwww now when they are on being kids. Makes me think of the old days of soaps when kids were not too much SORAS. Facts. I like to hear it since we know I love me some Liz.

Ooooo watch out now!!! lol.

Oh, I believe the reason behind the hiring. Just look at the writing, even the way to go (aka a relationship with Trina could have written itself with no retcon baby) has not saved him. I just don't want him dead. Unlike other Friends of Frank's... I agree with this. They really do favor each other. And that idea re: violin reminds me of when they recast Victoria on Y&R with Ameila Heinle and explained while she was away, she learned to love artwork. A shame he was lost in the shuffle in hindsight.