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Lol! I am sure there is enough John/Marlena fanfic out there in the world already. In a perfect world the tale of 2 Romans would have never happened, but then the show wouldn't have had years of story via the John/Marlena affair. I don't know if the show stuck with just one backstory and expanded on it most anything could have worked. I do think trying to tie it to Hope's was a weird choice though. The jewel thief stuff got scrapped pretty quickly along with the wife, but I think that was because Staci Greason didn't re-sign and Izzy B was going to kick the bucket shortly. John/Gina were art thieves I believe so it could have all tied together pretty easily. Again, I think there were two very clear choices to make for John : Roman's twin or Stefano's son. Neither happened lol.

With Erica she always got a lead story, but the entire cast wasn't reacting to Erica or involved with Erica. They had their own stories like others have said. There were A/B/C stories in general. Like @Darn said, at the height of Sonny/Jason/Carly/Sam(Courtney)-no one else had a story unless their story was reacting to something one of those 4 did. Even most of the B or C stories connected back to them. That's eating a show. I am surprised more people here haven't mentioned Sami or EJ on Days. I probably did at some point, but in the mid 2000's everything was about Sami or Sami's love life. Her and James Scott playing Colleen and Santo in the Brady vendetta crap might be the pinnacle of the two's airtime. Not only were they on all the time they are now playing 2 characters that are on all the time as well.

New Orleans cast resonates with me better. LA/New York happened when I was too young to watch it in real time, so the NOLA cast feels much closer in age to myself. There is a bit more earnestness and realness in the first few seasons cast though. By New Orleans, MTV knew what they were looking for and the castmates definitely knew they were there for drama and entertainment. Watching David in LA was a tough watch. I really felt I was watching someone with severe mental problems who's life was in complete shambles. It was uncomfortable. Julie's just an entitled, racist, homophobic b*tch. I don't feel like she's actually struggling with anything except getting the most attention and screentime.

Maybe. Then the show doesn't have to deal with Belle/Shawn being related. I would overlook that if I had to. Really? The story had potential. John could have been so many interesting things: Stefano's son, Roman's twin/brother, someone who had a family in his past life, someone truly evil, the real Roman etc. Instead he's just a rich, nice guy with an everchanging backstory and soap's longest case of amnesia ever. Like Jason Morgan on GH, I always figured someday he would regain his memories, but I guess not. I think at the time it made sense to make John an Alamain because Lawrence was the big bad and the Dimeras weren't around. But the Alamain presence was gone soon after and it would have made much more sense to connect him to Stefano as his son or the show could have taken the easiest way out and made him Roman's twin.

It could have been such a good story, but like every writer ever wanted to make it their own and it made it the biggest clusterf*ck of all time. And at some point it barely matters. John is what he is. Unless you make him Roman I don't really care.

It's Brenda's kid Alec!! Calling it now. Although he looks nothing like her and that makes no sense I feel like he has to have a connection to someone because what's the point here otherwise?

lol! I read it as how does it fit in as of a current timeline, but that's probably wrong. It's all a mess regardless..

@Diongave me this excellent description on this thread a few months back: John actually is the real Forrest, it's just that he was adopted by the Alamains rather than being their biological child. Who they adopted him from keeps changing though lol. I think currently we are meant to believe that John's father Yo Ling, formerly Timothy Robicheaux, who escaped to China during the Korean War formed some sort of communist alliance with Petrov, found out John had been adopted by the Alamains and reclaimed him so the Alamains (or maybe just Philomena) let him take John and faked his death in the pool. And John was brainwashed at some private school before Petrov betrayed Yo Ling and took John to Stefano. I love bitchy Marlena!!

Do we think Dex is going to be related to somebody or is someone's long lost kid? I haven't read any spoilers. Maybe he's Mac's? Him and Felicia were having that weird conversation about kids.

I loved Scandal so much. I know it went off the rails toward the end and if I never hear the words B6-13 again in my life I will be happy, but those first couple of seasons were amazing!! Olivia Pope is the greatest! I think Melissa has grown a lot. I hope she tells it like is and doesn't speak to Julie for another 20 years lol. So far I like this show more than the previous two reunion seasons, but the focus on Julie is very annoying. She's getting the most screen time by being an absolute idiot.

There is a huge difference between getting drunk and falling flat on your face and running into a tree and throwing up. That's sloppy, black out and dangerously drunk. I doubt Julie remembers a thing about that night and was trying to make excuses to her husband for when it does air. I want Melissa and everyone to go off on her, but I feel like she's not even worth anyone's time or energy. Julie is just delusional and no one is going to change her mind I feel like. I think Julie probably would have made a big deal about even if Jamie did it. She wants to be a victim and make everything about her regardless. Julie doesn't think she is racist and didn't take into consideration the repercussions of saying that about the black man who was the only one who stepped up and helped her. Julie is definitely one of those women who says she is not racist because she has a black and a gay friend. At this point I would rather have an entire episode of boring ass Jamie/Matt/Kelly sitting in the house over anymore screen time for Julie.

No I was being stupid lol. I was watching today while still finishing up some work and thought I was a total idiot for thinking that thy were at the Horton cabin for days, but at Ben's instead. I would say I should pay better attention, but it's Days so I probably will not lol. Haven't a number of characters given birth at that cabin or just Marlena? I feel like characters have gotten trapped there in several precarious situations over the years...

lol! I know I edited my post. I thought they were at Ben's cabin when he ran out and then watched the rest of the show. Everyone is dumb in Salem lol

Why is everyone being so dumb? The Horton Cabin is an obvious place for Allie/Ciara to be-outside of Ben/Ciara's fire cabin it's like the first place I would look. I thought they were at Ben's cabin when he ran out, but nope, at the Horton Cabin lol. Damn, Ciara had that baby in about 2 scenes. Lucky girl. Fastest labor ever! Glad Eli was awake/Lamon is back. Maybe that story can start moving.

GH's cast is so enormous I don't blame you. I am a frequent watcher (not everyday) and some times even I am like who is this person? It doesn't help ME and RH are on their third or fourth character either lol. I'd be interested to see where Skye/Lila Rae are now I suppose, but the majority of her main screen partners are long gone. I just GH having a lot of women in a certain age that fill roles Skye could at this point.

@Antoyne@Cheap21I am not hating on people that love Skye. I thought everyone loved her and I was the oddball that disliked her. RC's stanning is intense. She was always robbed of this or that and I always thought not really? She got pairings, she got to be an insta Q, she had stories and she never fit on GH and overall RC had a long soap career. Did RC deserve to win the emmy that year? Maybe. I think Vanessa's win was flimsy at best and sort of a reward for being super popular. I can't recall everyone elses work that was nominated because they all were really good actresses IIRC. It's not really a Skye vs. Brenda thing either. That's about 5 months of both their years long soap careers. Regardless, she never ate any show she was on, but I do think she was heavily pushed on OLTL and GH for reason I can't discern. And I know I am opening myself up to Vanessa Marcil/Brenda were hyped to the high heavens comments and that is true as well. I get that. But at least she was a GH character with a huge fanbase behind her. That's JMO and I honestly wouldn't be mad at Skye/RC returning to soaps or GH.

it was a lot. I didn't mind obviously. It didn't seem to negatively effect the show the way her 2010 return did when she was on much less, but everyone was talking about her. I don't really have any qualms about her 2002-03 return. It was crappy for Jax/Brenda fans, but it gave the show the boost it needed at the time and Brenda wasn't the weird, weepy victim she was last time we saw her. Idk, in 2002 a lot of characters were involved with Brenda and her various stories and it felt more organic. In hindsight, they should have used Brenda a lot less in hopes of not burning out VM and keeping her. Maybe? Skye had a long history of sabotaging herself though. Skye/Jax isn't a bad pairing. It got weirdly accelerated for Brenda's return. Those two weren't even on steady ground much less ready for marriage. If anyone was decimated for Brenda it was Jax in that story. That's probably the best story/work RC got in her entire run on GH. I don't think it ruined her, but YMMV on that. I always thought like Jax looked the worst. Dumping Skye after a few minutes of marriage then dumping Brenda at the altar. Sure, Skye went off the rails, but there was still a sympathy factor for her IMO>

Absolutely. Brenda was on everyday except for one in her 6 months on the show. Hating Brenda doesn't make Skye a good character or fit for GH though lol. I did think RC/VM played off each other well and RC was lucky to be involved in that story because it gave her good material.

Yeah, as much as I dislike Ben/Ciara I think both of them are decent actors. They have great chemistry and are certainly beautiful. It's Ben's backstory and the writing that lets them down more often than not. I don't think it's RSW or VK's faults.

I don't think RSW is that bad of an actor. I guess I am alone in this. Ben is stupid. Ciara/Ben are stupid, but I don't think RSW's acting is really the problem. I don't think he's Brando or anything, but I don't think he's much worse than anyone else. He's certainly better than Mr. Boatman.

This I would agree with. My RC/Skye dislike aside I would take her over half the cast at the point. She could easily have fit in the Nina role. It's too bad she and MB don't get along. For some reason I always thought Skye/Sonny would be a good pairing.

I can't even start on that Tin Man nonsense. Sex in a cave going through Withdrawals and a dead body? Hot (It was kind of hot). Brenda was arrested for Dorman's murder? She talked to him like once in her life. Origami gum rappers are always threatening. It got really weird after Guza left. But the Rivera revenge angle was a good idea. It just got weirdly jumbled

I am just going to boldly say none of those parts would be right for her. Acting wasn't right for her. But you cut Guza out to quick There was clink boom. Whether he wrote it or not it didn't stall out to after he left and then we got the tin man [!@#$%^&*]. Eyebrows aside she might be the coldest actress ever. She generates mild chemistry with her love interests, but she's literally no match with her peers on that.

Do you not remember Brenda stealing their letters and reading them aloud? Because that was a [!@#$%^&*] chore. No wonder she banged Sonny the first chance she got. He wasn't as wordy... RC is just a choice to bring back. I wouldn't hate an adult Lila rae.

I literally have no idea who signed off on Leslie Horan. Was Mark Teschner on vacation? Did they even test her with Ingo? VM was chewing her up and spitting her out everyday, but I did think LH had some chemistry with Maurice which is weird. There was just a lot of literal white horses, poems, and overwrought bullshit with Jax/Miranda and I think they were like 18 and knew one another for five minutes. RC isn't that great, she is a cold actress, and without JFP she'd be nothing... I feel so free saying that. VM deserves her emmy on a lifetime of being awesome not so much her 4 months of work in that situation. And also she's a lead not supporting. I don't get the emmys.