carolineg

I don't see any reason to bring up Charlotte/Nathan's previous history with Claudette because it was never mentioned after the story ended and it's confusing. It over complicates Charlotte's already silly background. As far as Britt/Spencer, I am not sure why that relationship would be mentioned. They were close for a moment when he was a child. Spencer is dead, Nik is gone, so unless Britt is talking to Trina or Laura for some reason there isn't a way to insert it into conversation. Jason and Brad don't care about Spencer and that's the only people Britt interacts with.

Oh, but I am sure tomorrow we will get Jason paying for their dinner and Britt being a Britch to him claiming she didn't need his help. Even though he basically pays for all her essential needs. But Britt's a strong, independent woman!!

Well, at least we got our first taste of wacky hijinks from Brad/Britt. ☹️ Let's order an expensive dinner without asking who's paying ha ha ha! I hope Jason can stop being up Joss's butt in time to pay so they don't have to hilariously wash dishes together or something.

Fair enough. Marc Samuel and Carnes didn't have much chemistry, but I don't think Shen/Carnes had enough to change the course. Neither pairing was great.

It's odd Brad was the character they kept over Felix. I would have dumped them both, but Felix at least was a good guy. I guess Britt propping gets you a lot farther than Sabrina propping lol.

Yeah, it normally doesn't bother me exactly. Steve just doesn't feel like a "Papa" to me lol. The ending was odd too. Didn't Jeremy openly admit he was ambidextrous to Steve episodes ago? That wasn't a secret lol.

Have all the adult Stephanies called Steve "Papa"? I think Shelley Henig's version did, but I can't recall. I don't generally find it as annoying as Charlotte on GH calling Valentin "Papa", but it seems like a dated and odd choice for the character of Stephanie especially since she didn't find out he was alive until she was an adult.

I have no insider info, but I think it was alleged the network wanted to beef up the Spencer presence. It wasn't Frank's idea. So he brought JJ and brought in Havins and followed the order, but wasn't happy about it.

I think it was an ABC mandate.

Coming from a person that barely even likes Lulu, it's maddening. Two people used her eggs without her consent and presented her with children and when she tries to be a good mother and parent them she looks bad. Frank really hates the Spencers. Yes, Charlotte should absolutely be allowed to leave school, her family, her house, and her stability to go on the run with Papa. And, yes, Rocco should move into Britt's one room at Kelly's that Jason pays for because he's curious about his incubator.

I never doubted you lol. Lulu has all these valid points about not wanting her kids to hang out with their awful "parents", but still looks unreasonable. I know it's to help prop Setton and Brook Lynn (plus KT/Britt), but it makes me dislike BLQ and Britt more.

Ha! I thought of you when he showed up. It only took him 7 months to run out of money. He and Jacinda really need a class on budgeting blackmail gains. Yeah, I get your point. It's a shame both these stories are happening at the same time. It makes Lulu look like a weird helicopter mom that won't let her kids do anything even if she has valid reasons. The show has written Lulu poorly and tried to make her the heavy in almost every situation since her return so it's not surprising.

Welp, I guess the inevitable Brad return happened.

I always felt like Robin was the one woman who really intimidated Carly. She's smart, pretty, Sonny and Jason love her, the town adores her, she has tons of friends, etc. Carly always felt inferior to her. It's probably my favorite Carly rivalry. While I like Brenda/Carly as foes there really isn't that much history there besides sleeping with the same men. I don't think Carly respects Brenda and I think she secretly respects Robin. Both are obviously better than LW's Carly screeching at women that go near Sonny or Jason today lol. To your second point, I feel like Skye's inclusion in the Brenda return was another attempt at shoehorning the character in and gaining sympathy for poor Skye. Jax didn't need to marry her for conflict. Brenda faked her death weeks before Jax/Brenda's wedding, hid for 4 years, shacked up with Alcazar, thinks she's dying, Jax gets shot and paralyzed, Brenda marries Jason, Sonny's hanging around, Alcazar is still stalking her, and so on. That's a ton of conflict right there. Jax didn't need a wife in the mix especially when he dumps about 10 min after Brenda returned.

Oh, believe me I know. There used to be a lot on this board. I am not sure why though. The coupling was okay, but Jax did Skye kind of dirty by immediately dumping her for Brenda. Why would you want them back together? Although the Jax/Brenda/Skye triangle and her descent back into alcoholism was probably the best material she got on GH.

Perhaps I was giving the entire team too much credit. I assumed the show snapped up Ingo when Titans flopped, were hoping to get Vanessa and it fell through, and scrapped together some wacky plot for Jax last minute, hoping something would stick. I was always a bit surprised they didn't try to repair the coupling of Chloe/Jax. I can see the idea of tying him to the Cassadines in his return via Alexis, but that story was just odd. Jax left his entire life in PC to find Brenda and gave up after less than a year and somehow ran into Cassadine intrigue? I could go on and on about the Skye romance. They were barely together and then were getting married. It wasn't anywhere near Jax's worst pairing, but everyone in the audience knew the show was ramping up the obstacles for Brenda's return and nothing was organic about it. Honestly though I always laugh when I think about Ric and Marianna? What a silly story no one ever mentioned again. Did JFP really think THAT story was going to elevate RH to lead status?

Robin being practically shunned out of town by Jason and Sonny was awful. While the initial lie about AJ made some sense for Carly the show should have worked harder to make a more even playing field after the truth came out. I would assume the idea was to get Ingo and Vanessa back at the time. Brenda was back a year or so later, so rebooting Jax was kind of a moot point in the end. Nothing Jax did in that year really changed the character or was memorable. I guess romancing Skye, but I believe that was only ramped up once the show knew they had secured Vanessa. When Carly went to the institution after shooting Tony I could understand her fear of losing Michael. It was valid. Jason saving her from that made sense. Once Carly/Sonny were together and married Carly was established. There wasn't a real need to keep AJ away from Michael all together. Once there were multiple acts of violence taking place in Sonny's world putting Michael in danger the reasons to keep AJ away from Michael became increasingly flimsy.

Personally, I was never a fan of Sonny/Carly vs. AJ for Michael. In the beginning when Carly was pretending Jason was the father I could almost get behind some of the reasoning. ALMOST. Once Sonny got involved the show had to work far too hard to make me believe Sonny was the better option as a father. Carly/Sonny had tons of support on message boards in the early 2000's though. The most ardent Sonny fans wanted Sonny to have a child because there was a time long ago where Sonny didn't have any kids (that he knew of) and Carly had trouble getting pregnant again. The writing was always an issue for AJ, but I would argue the recasting to Billy Warlock was also a big shift for AJ as anything other than a loser bad guy. Sorry, that's my longer answer to your initial question lol. I remember Ingo being gone for like a year and came back when Titans flopped. They announced his return at the Emmys, there was a good amount of promotion, and then that was the re-intro. He originally left to find a not dead Brenda and failed but found Alexis's long-lost sister instead. Yay? Lol The show never really knew what to do with Jax outside of Brenda and later Carly's orbit. It's amazing Jax lasted as long as he did on the show.

I would say no. Not at that point. Early on I think Sonny/Carly had some support from fans.

Fair enough, but people used to actually like Sonny. I could see Britt as a Katherine like character that everyone just eye rolls when she speaks yet vaguely tolerate, but that's really not helpful or what I think the show is going for lol.

Labine/Guza would have never let the Britt angle with Rocco get so far out. I do hope Rocco just walks dogs all the way to Sonny's house so Sonny and various characters can have serious life changing conversations while holding adorable dogs.

They were good. Emma got to actually say what the entire audience has been saying about her and Rocco.

Would you just leave it as is? I would at least revisit it personally because that was an anti climatic ending for the character. I wouldn't say Luke was alive all this time and now he's for real dead, but I would expand on his og death a bit more.

Yes. I think Stephanie is a very solid B-character in general. That's an odd thing to say about Patch/Kayla's daughter, but I think it would work towards Klein's strengths. There's a place on Days for the way the character of Stephanie is being written right now. It's just not in a leading capacity.

I do think Abigail Klein is at least serviceable and I don't hate Stephanie. The character just has 0 personality. She morphs interests and desires every time she switches boyfriends. And it's not as if any of her pairings have even been mildly popular. I agree about C/F obviously. It's better, but not special. The bar was so low the lack of offensive material made the show seem like it was moving in the right direction. The show really isn't moving anywhere lol. It's just existing day to day.