Everything posted by Soaplovers
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ALL: Short Lived Character, Long Lasting Impact
Rose Deville on YR: She appeared in two separate stints on the show in 1980 and 1986/7. Her terrorizing Nikki and Nina led to long term effects on the show. Nikki's marriage to Greg ended leading her to eventually strip and meet Victor..and the rest is history. Nina lost her baby, was befriended by Cricket, and then Nina stole Phillip by becoming pregnant and creating the next Chancellor generation...plus help reignite the Jill/Katherine feud by making them join forces against Nina.
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ALL: Short Lived Character, Long Lasting Impact
General Hospital: Dominique.. a character that was on for barely two years (and only a year if you only count Shell D's stint). Her death affected Scotty, Mac, Lucy, and ended up resulting in the birth of Serena, and the introductions of two half sisters Danielle and Katherine. And the effects of her character spanned onto a spinoff Port Charles
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Flamingo Road
I think the problem was that the show was trying to sell Lane and Field as an endgame couple, but viewers ended up being more interested in Constance and her pursuits instead of Lane.
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Melrose Place
Rhonda should have survived into season 2 when the show was soapy, but still had that realistic element of the first part of season 1. She could have been preparing for her marriage, and maybe her soon to be hubby is hurt in the car crash that Michael/Kimberly is in... and once Rhonda finds out about Michael being the cause.. she could have gone all crazy on his ass. I don't know if she could have been a fit once the show goes OTT in season 3 or not without becoming the damsal in distress like Jo becomes.. or her character changes drastically in order to fit into the OTT landscape. I do agree that the podcast needs to share episode recaps weekly in addition to the co star interviews. The way they're going.. it'll be Valentine's Day before we get to Heather's first episode on the show.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I was a pre-teen/early teen during the Brenda era of 90210, and I will admit to briefly joining the I hate Brenda crowd until my mom told me that Shannen looked like she was in pain and was lashing out from a place of pain, not because she was a horrible person. 90210 and Charmed were better when Shannen was on the show.. she was able to play a good character.. but was never a Mary Sue nor insipid. Brenda and Pru were good people with good hearts, but were not afraid to push back when attacked. And I was one of the few that thought both Kelly and Brenda were too good for Dylan. RHONY: Brynn is trying too hard.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Oddly, I think Vanessa became more well rounded and less of a character trope once Marland left. I liked the Taming of the Shrew story between Vanessa and Billy...and I do agree she became too watered down by 1984. I think the pill addiction story was a good idea..but it should have been the result of Vanessa repressing her true self and taking pills to cope. I think her return in 1989 was perfect. She was a combination of the Vanessa of the Marland era and the Vanessa of the Long era. That Vanessa stays around till the start of Matessa. It was in character for Vanessa to enjoy a fling...but out of character to marry her younger lover.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Knots Landing
I did recent rewatch of season 8, and I was surprised that I found more to like about the season then not. - Jill's character gets development and is more then just a plot point/obstacle (which she was in season 7 with first Karen/Mac and later Gary/Abby). She's a grey character... and that's a difficult character to write for.. hence why writers struggled to write Laura since she also was a grey character. - The Jean Hackney story went on too long, it should have been resolved earlier in the season because the follow up episodes after that story ended involved Laura/Val's friendship suffering, Val/Greg actually sharing scenes, Ben's mental decline with the roles reversed between Val/Ben. All elements that needed more time to be developed/played out.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
The Lewis Family under Marland probably would have been boring and devoid of any sort of life or personality. It's a credit to Long that she managed to make the Lewis family distinctive and different then the Spauldings... and lord knows, she had a better handle on the Reardon's then Marland did.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
The only time I thought Reva was finally growing up and acting like an adult was during the 1989-1990 period where she had somewhat settled down with Josh, had Shayne, and dealt with a very real issue of post-partum depression. I always figured that she never really dealt with her mental illness, and that would have been a better story to explore in the 90s/early 00s instead of the San Cristobel BS.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
As someone that was diagnosed with Autism at 3...after months of constant tests and Dr visits...I would have let the witch have it as well if I saw her talking about it. People like her are why the Autism community is heavily discriminated against. Jenn has her flaws, especially her lack of judgement concerning men....but she isn't a Gretchen or Alexis. She actually pushes back
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
Only reason why Erin should always keep an apple.... her ability to host the annual Hamptons trip. She's too OCD to be a chill hostess... and I concur that this should be an annual tradition
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
At first Raven was a great character..but she stayed on far past her expiration date.
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
From watching episodes of the show in the fall of 1986, I was surprised at how well balanced the canvas was.. with an equal focus on all age groups. Seeing Ann Flood playing a character unlike Nancy Karr was a treat.. and she was effective. I think had the show been allowed to continue into 1987, I think the show probably would have maintained the smaller canvas... but continue to morph into a show that was more like Days then a P & G show. If I recall, when Addie Walsh and Pam Long came on before the show was axed.. the plan was to make the show more like a Days. So I have a feeling that would have been the main thing going into 1987. With that said, I do think it was time for the show to come to an end by 1986.. and the show did end in a beautiful way.
- Another World Discussion Thread
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Knots Landing
Ah...she lives in Newton! It's a cute and fairly well off town in MA.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
Last season was their debut season... no time to be coy or be subtle. Erin went all out on her pot stirring and went OTT in her reactions to being called out. Brynn wisely showed us NYC with her playing chess, going to Central Park, hanging with her brother, hanging with her ex, and showing us a few cool stores. She did what she was good at... playing on her sad backstory. Now that we're in the sophomore year.. Brynn's type of pot stirring can now be done
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
Brynn was a pot stirrer last season.. people just choose to ignore that because Erin did it better. Jenna is just so cringe and awkward... it's very uncomfortable watching her. Ubah not being on so much was a good thing. Wish they had downgraded her because she brings nothing except being abusive to the show. Erin kept talking about sex last season... almost obsessively. Usually that is a signal that all is not so rosy in a relationship.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
BH has always been surface and kind of tacky. Moreso then dare I say the OC and SLC... but the OC has that soccer mom tackiness that warms my heart and SLC has that over the top quirkiness that amuses me. SLC is what BH wishes it were.. but it always come across as trying without actually just being.
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Knots Landing
For her, she had a job with MP till 1997 and it was her breakout role. I would say that's a downside lol
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Matlock Reboot with Kathy Bates
That ending... a nice soap opera twist that elevates it above a cute quirky cozy lawyer show
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Knots Landing
Dianne Kirkwood would have served as a good Abby replacement instead of going through the effort of creating Claudia and bringing back Anne as a full time cast member (who worked better as a character that would come and go). Sadly, as previously mentioned, she was viewed as a plot point instead of a character that you could write and keep on full time. You could tell that Lotus Point being dropped in season 10 really affected the show because losing Lotus Point took away another gathering place for all of the characters to interact at. Dianne could have been someone from Karen's past that perhaps found a way into getting a position/job at Lotus Point to stick it to Karen. She could have even been introduced to other characters and also had her back story fleshed out.
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DAYS: R.I.P. Drake Hogestyn (John Black, Days of our Lives)
He had chemistry with everyone... He managed to be in four fairly popular couplings with Diana/e, Izzy B, Marlena, and Kristen. And he and Marlena were settling nicely into the patriarch & Matriarch of DAYS. RIP
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
The Heather of season 1 is a far cry from the Heather we see in season 5. I think Heather in season 1 was more her authentic self.. and the Heather we've seen since season 2 is a Heather that seems to be in on the joke. While that's an interesting choice to make, on a reality show... I want an authentic housewife. Someone like Lisa is a delulu.. but is generally harmless, that we know of. So I enjoy watching someone Lisa out and about because she's so delulu that it's enjoyable to see her interact with the world. New girls.. too soon to tell.
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Knots Landing
Minus Sheridan... she wanted to leave originally after season 13 and the show convinced her to stay one more season. If the show had opted to continue into S15, Devane/Sheridan leaving would have freed up the budget... but there would have been another revamp of the show for sure. Most likely, it would have been more like a combination of a family drama and/or legal procedural in soap opera format.