Everything posted by Soaplovers
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Most successful soap returns
GL: Holly's return at the Bauer front door Christmas 1988 wishing Ed a Merry Christmas... was a great start of bringing back two popular characters from the 70s. Her return helped usher back in Roger's return a few months later. AMC: Jesse/Angie's return in 2008 only worked because the headwriters that ushered their return happened to know those characters from their stint head-writing Loving. Days: Marlena's return in 1991 caused a ratings bump to #2 for a few weeks and helped usher in the next era of the show that led to Sami/Carrie/Austin, amongst other stories.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I think the reason why Sai/Erin are confused by Jessel/Pravit is because they don't know the specifics of their early relationship. I read somewhere that Jessel and Pravit were long distance the first year or so of their relationship.. and I think sometimes you're more able to be apart or together with ease. @Liberty CityAbe and Erin seem 'try hard' to me... in terms of their oh so active sex life. It's been my experience that people actually having sex tend not to talk about it so much vs people that don't have as much so they talk it up. And I actually think there is a backstory with Abe/Erin that we don't know about
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY: Things I liked about the episode: Seeing Ubah at work, talking to a restaurant about them using her hot sauces in their meals (not sure if the deal was finalized, or if it fell through). Jenna and her son at the eye glass boutique while she talked about how having a good relationship with her son takes away the sting of her bad relationship with her mom (though holding hands is very creepy) Sai and her aunt had a nice scene, but I have a feeling the editors put that scene in as an emergency PR stunt to give her more layers. Things I didn't like about the episode: Erin/Sai's obession with Jessel's marriage. That tells me things are not rosy in their own marriages if they're obsessed with Jessel's marriage. So Erin has theories on Jessel/Pravit's marriage... well Erin I have theories on your marriage to Abe. It works both ways dear.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I'm guessing Marland kind of envisioned Lily/Holden to be a sort of Taming of the Shrew done from 80s teen perspective... spoiled rich girl meeting her match in the stable boy. Problem was that Lily/Holden were better characters apart then when they were together. They brought out the worst in one another... Lily being so needy/inspid while Holden being cute but dumb. Whenever they were apart, Lily got her brains and fight back.. while Holden got his intelligence and drive back. Lily played Martha was kind of annoying/one note by 1988/9.. that it was nice to have a break for a few years till Martha could grow up and play a more adult Lily. However, when Holden came back in 1997... Lily regressed as a character.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
There were some episodes of 1985 before Marland took over... where Lily/Dusty had that Romeo/Juliet type of situation with Lucinda not approving of him and Shannon/Sierra being the voice of reason for both Lily and Dusty. It was a good story already and would have been an interesting way to start pairing Lucinda and John as a couple down the road. I much preferred Heather R's Lily over Martha's Lily... though the period between 1993 and 1997 were good years for Martha playing Lily.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY: I had a rumor that there is a casting call for NY so I assume either they're going to add someone as a new housewife or Friend of for the next season... or they're going to rotate out someone and add someone new. OC has always rotated in and out their castmembers... and I'm hoping this remains for season 18. RHOC: So Jenn has a backbone at the reunion. She did well in part 1. Tamra needs to understand that you need to speak your mind then move on if the person you're giving advice to doesn't listen. She was obsessed with exposing Gretchen in seasons 4 to 6 before backing off in season 7 and 8 (to a lesser extent).. and once she did that, Gretchen kind of tripped herself up. All Tamra needs to do is stand back and watch Jenn/Ryan implode because Jenn won't listen to anyone about him.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
I was on Facebook when the Kyle/Mauricio story broke and some people were actually commenting how their marriage was an inspiration so I'm sure people did go up to her and say that.
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LIFETIME: "Ladies of the 80's: A Diva's Christmas"
Loni Anderson should have been on a primetime soap.. I'm remembering her stint on Tori Spelling 'So Notorious' as her 'mom' and she could throw shade with ease. She'll have no problems fitting in with these women.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHOSLC: Mary in season 1 lived in her closet either because she was guarding the skeletons hiding in her closet or she believed her closet led to the magical land of Narnia. Since then she's had a difficult time understanding the ways of our world....production and the other women should be there for her during this trying time. Monica... chill out sweetie...you don't need to be so thirsty. Sometimes that can come back and haunt you. What is little girls.... I mean.. Whitney's purpose on the show? Heather's daughters are more mature than Heather. I think Angie K is Greek...but I could be wrong.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
wow... Vyle Kyle finally is working for her pay check.
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Characters Without a Fanbase
I wouldn't have minded Reese/Bianca breaking up because Reese is conflicted over what she wants without acting on her conflicted emotions.. and then the show could have had both Reese/Bianca grow as individual and then find their way back to one another... but Bianca sleeping with Ryan???? Yeah... plot driven dreck that didn't fit Bianca's character at all. I remember my mom was a die hard Jesse/Angie fan in the 80s.. and she did like the character Laura B played and also loved Shannon K as his daughter. She thought it was a waste to bring on Laura B for such a short stint since she thought she and Tad had chemistry and it would be interesting to see a brief pairing and what that would do to Jesse (would he be happy or a bit jealous)
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY Brynn at the rare book store in this episode, playing chess in a previous episode, and talking about her grandma with her brother... I wish she would show more of this to everyone instead of trying to do a 2023 variation of Samantha Jones. And I think in regards to her previous fiances, I have a feeling it's a 'runaway bride' situation where she's pretending to like what the guy likes instead of actually being herself with them. Seeing her at the book store, it made me think 'I would like hanging out with this girl'. Jessel is so Alex McCord... it isn't funny. And I admit I kind of wish we had seen the scene of her with her twins during the music session. The producers could have had Jessel saying how wonderful and educational this musical experience would for her boys.. and then cut to scenes of the boys running around away from the group with Jessel chasing them. Erin and hubby... there is something going on in that marriage.. and this week further shows that. I don't know exactly what is going on.. but something is off with them. Sai and Jessel I guess aren't going to be bonding this week.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Ah..no wonder her early weeks were so choppy...the writers hadn't fully formed her character yet. I think the mistake later writers did with Cass/Frankie was make them too serious without the quirky/comedic elements that made them appealing. You had baby Charlie with her health ailments, Cass' mental health issues, Cass' becoming gullible to believe Maggie was his daughter, Frankie feeling less than because she couldn't have a 2nd baby, etc. It was no wonder focus groups in 1996 were not so keen on Frankie. I read that Joe/Frankie were also written to be co detectives like Ryan/Frankie were...but I have a feeling that buddy pairing wasn't as successful...and instead of viewing Joe as the problem...Frankie got the blame.
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Another World Discussion Thread
The only actress I think could have played Donna and put her spin on it was the actress that had played Diane Ballard on GL. She had the more controlled/upper class vibe that AS had.. but I think she could have put her own spin on Donna. I've always thought Pilece should have played Nicole, but I thought Ms Howard did as well she could with an underwritten character like Nicole. It would have been interesting had Nicole stayed on the show for the remaining year of her contract.. and co-existed with Cass/Frankie. The awkward interactions at big events, but als in a separate orbit dealing with her family dramas. In fact.. I could have seen Michael turning to her vs Stacy after the Mikey custody situation. The show had hinted at something between Nicole/Michael when that brief recast played her.
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Another World Discussion Thread
So I've watching some early 1989 and I've come to Frankie's early episodes. What a bitch..so unlikable. I'm glad the writing and actress softened the character over time. It did make me wonder why the show just didn't have her play Molly Ordway instead instead of creating a new character? She had the same type of relationship with Emma that Molly did..and was kind of a troublemaker as well.
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Y&R vet returning
You can't celebrate Lauralee's 40th anniversary and not have Nina back so I'm glad TPTB also realized that.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
8 is too many. 6 is the magic number where we can get a nice balance of individual vignettes and group scenes. Potomac needs to be deducting housewives, not adding to the stale numbers. RHOSLC: Monica is just pure trash... good for housewives, but certainly someone I wouldn't be friends in real life. I certainly wouldn't trust her with anyone married or my significant other. Lisa is all about Lisa.. and tonight I was understood what Monica was saying and agreed with Monica.. though I do think Monica is projecting her insecurities onto Lisa. Actually.. she and Lisa are more alike then either would like to admit. Whitney... you may have gotten some coaching from Candiace.. but you're still in the reading people for beginners class. Angie K... makes me wonder why Angie H isn't there instead LOL Heather has the best talking heads especially during the team building scenes at the park LOL
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
Wish Ron would be fired...maybe once he's back for a bit..he'll be let go.
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
After how the WGA was screwed in the 1985 writer strike, it makes sense they stuck to their guns on this one. The reason for the 1985 strike was due to compensation for home video sales.. and the WGA agreed to a low ball deal because it was 'untested market'. And with streaming being so popular and the go to for people now, it was harder for the Production companies to pull the 'untested' argument.
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Moonlighting FINALLY Coming To Streaming on Hulu!
I think I only got season 1/2 and 3 on DVD... the best seasons and didn't opt to buy season 4 or 5 because of the sub-standard quality of the episodes. Turning into a soap in season 4 was not a good mood when the best part of the show were the cases and how either David or Maddie would figure out that one element that helped them solve the case. And I did love the Agnes Dipesto focused episodes
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Characters Without a Fanbase
When he was with Gillian..he did. I think once she was written out of the show..people gradually grew disillusioned with him.
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
People were mad at the soap actors for working even though they were on a different contract, plus shows with completed scripts were picketed.....could u imagine what the union would say if the Daytime Emmy's attempted to happen?
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Chances of writing changes after the writer strike ends?
I don't know if GH would get rid of their headwriters once the strike is officially over. I could see GH probably keeping whoever was handling the breakdown writing and script writers because they're the ones that have a hand with pacing, etc. Also.. maybe because the strike was going on.. maybe the network left the scab writers alone so anything they wrote/decided on didn't have to go through hoops to get approved.
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Dark Shadows Discussion Thread
I also had read that she was planning to go back to Dark Shadows but the show was canceled before the writers could figure out how to bring her back. My theory would have been a PT story either in the past or in the present with the character.