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Maybe season 4 could show that cooper did save Laura Palmer..and that we are seeing the new present day world...shich could easily explain why certain actors that have passed aren't back.

Found some 1990 episodes from spring to summer, it seems like a show in transition. Was Trask/david/sharla/Melanie an attempt at recreating the glory years of the teen scene early 1980s? Natalie's personify gradually is watered down as 1990 moves forward. Erica caught between Jack and Travis? Erica and Jack were a horrid couple and don't get why they were kept together 9n and off till 2009. The new Angie isn't Angie whatsoever. Decent actress, but it's a different character. She plays Angie more passive and sweet while Debbie Morgan had backbone and confidence infused into Angie. Does this pat/Angie dating the same man last Long? I can see why Debbie Morgan jumped ship if this was the best the shoe could give her. Ceara circa 1990 is a blonde Erica Kane right down to her flirting with Jack.

I agree vets were needed....that wad why it was a surprise Susan lasted so long. She provided great support for Emily and Allison. I recall when she found out Emily was a prostitute and Allison did adult films...and she fell off the wagon. My mom said ' I completely get why that would happen'. It's a shame that John, Lisa, etc weren't used as well fornthst purpose.

Remember when housewife seasons were 10 to 12 episodes with a one or two part reunion..and a lost scenes episode? If the film and episode time were cut down..maybe pointless feuds wouldn't be stretched out so much. Just saying. Also, the inly person Luann was ever truly mean to was Alex especially in season 4. But let's compare where both of them are in 2017... Alex is still married, living in Australia, Simon is studying to be a lawyer, and she's working. Luann just finished a marriage that didn't even last a year and seems like she's not swimming in money as much as she once was. Karma pretty much knocked her down a few pegs. So @Nothin'ButAttitude it could very well happen to Tamra as well...si don't give up hope.

Jeana...how I miss thee I always thought DC got cancelled because the other women refused to film with the Shalis. If anyone needs to be replaced, it's Andy Cohen for being blind to the potential of the other women minus the Whitehouse crasher.

I recall Ana was cut because she w asnt around to film at all the events...cause she was doing her book tour as well as guest co hosting in the view..plus doing her cooking stuff. Of course, I would have me to her on for the fact that she had s tufd going in other then during with the other women. I think a balance needs to be maintained...season 2 of Miami had a great balance between drama, fun moments, and individual segments.. ..season 3 also got marred by the Adriana marriage scandal...and how she cut out Lea, etc.

I watched the first 3 years or so of the show when it was on...i will say the most extreme 180 change in character was Julie Devlin...yet it made actual sense in a weird way. When the actress left in mid 2000..there was a void there in a way since a lot of her stories were quickly wrapped up...the Christina custody story, her marriage to chris...and her and Rachel Locke's cat and mouse situation. While the recast ellen had a hard time following Debbie morgan..i d8nt even think Debbie Morgan could have made the Sebastian story work either. I do tho k recast Ellen and Rachel had a good rapport..mand I hated that the connection they hinted at never was followed through on..nor was Ellen's fate ever revealed I don't recall. Did she leave suddenly..or did Rachel dispose of her?

Lorna...a character that fell by the wayside even before she was recast. I wonder if the change of writers was the rrason.

With Phaedra gone, his other favorite was Nene...would u agree?

I have always been curious about why Andy is kind of anti LVP? Does she throw shade and talk of others behind their back? Of course, but isn't that a requirement to being on these types of shows? What I have always loved about LVP is that shes an avid aninal lover, loves Ken (evem with all the jokes of twice a year for sex), and she loves both of her children...and what parent d oesnt have different relationships with their kids. I'd love to be friends with LVP..she seems fun..bit I wouldn't ever be close friends with her...but if I'm feeling down...i feel shed be able to cheer me up and vice versa. Kyle, I don't think she's evil..but kind of has a mean girl vibe to her...but I think she would be fun to hang with...just not ad a close friend. Erika vs lvp...ive been waiting for this...it has been hinted at for awhile now..both kind of know what the other is capable of.. but habe stayed out of one another's way so far

Season 2 and season 9 were the only times that character, soap, and OTT had a good balance. The krystle/Alexis brawl in season 2 worked because there was good motivation for the fight. All the other fights were done for shock without proper build up or motivation. I wish Fallon kept her edge and stayed a gray character....not evil nor goody goody. Season 1 to 2 and season 9 had the right shading to her character.

Luann as a single divorced girl...her and Ramona competing for men...carole and Luann having beef... Bethenny isn't needed...she can exit stage left.

I liked that Ava had fantasies on occasion even into the early 90s...since she was conceived to be more like No la Reardon then Erica Kane. Peluso played Ava more like a scarlet ohara with the fantasy/social climbing aspects of Nola. I liked Ava's sister Carly..and I do think the show wrote her out when she still had a lot of mileage left to utilize.

Do you think had they done the faith/frank/Jill story when Catherine hicks had played Faith..it would have worked better?

I think you mean Lynne, not Quinn. Quinn was tamras 1st target in season 3.

The faith/frank/Jill triangle signalled to me that it was probably best Labine was burned out. It was plot driven and totally undercut the Faith character. I still recall one scene where Jill said she was done pretending she was ok being in the same room with them...she knew that she said she could..but she real8zed it was a pipe dream. I always thought Jill was too good for Frank though Seneca wasnt any better for her. It was a crime that foe about 18 m9nths while Frank was off the canvas that she hardly did anything of substance...as if the show viewed Jill as not complete with Frank in the picture. Delia played by RE was almost a different character...more ditzy yet resourceful in an odd way. I liked how Taggert wrote Delia before Labine came back and tied her back to roger...her dysfunctional abuser.

Rhony does need a little shake up..nit major but some fine tuning. Carole adds nothing to the show...she isn't doing anything...time to drop her at last. Tinsley just didn't fit either. So id drop those two...and add maybe one new housewife. I think every season should add or take out a housewife to keep it from going stale. Rhoc benefited from an overhaul going into season 9...and it's time for another one for season 13. No to Gretchen or Lizzie. Maybe drop one or two..and keep it at 5 or 6. Dandria...where did they find her? She's perfect on Dallas. Maybe OC needs to steal the casting director from Dallas for season 13.

I was watching YouTube's of Robert and Katherine..probably near the end of their relationship. She fit in well with Sean, Tiff, and Anna. However, you could tell the actress was playing up the insecurity her character felt about her relationship with Robert. Oddly, I thought her and Anna fit better as friends then either did with Robert. It made perfect sense that the two broke up because Katherine would always feel doubt about Roberts love for her. It is telling that within six to eight months after the break up scenes between Robert and Katherine that he and Anna remarried. My late mom watched in the 80s...and she was team Holly...but she loved Anna with Duke.

I can see your reasons for wanting Gretchen to come back...however... It's been proven that a housewife coming back really doesn't work as well... examples below... Lydia on RHOC Dina and Jacqueline RHONJ Bethenny RHONY. Sheree RHOA Time will tell if Nene will be a bust. I do agree with @Nothin'ButAttitude that Lizzie should be recurring...she handled Vicki, t amra, and meghan...but she's so private that a friend of role like she had in season 10 would be perfect for her. And she actually has a business and a degree in merchandising so her being a designer worked.

I kind of wish Lynch and company had some interference...because it was a beautiful 18 hour movie..but no real payiff...but at the same time, I do admire him for not catering to fans...though I wish Audrey fate wasn't left up in the air. Was she in a coma, in a mental hosipital..or worse...dead.

Actually I wish they would film less together...im old school housewives format over the current one that requires drama, shade and Cattiness all the time. Don't get me wrong..drama is good but.balance is key. I'm not even Gretchen is coming back foenjust one episode. She should be a one season and over housewife. If she loses Slade, gets an actual job, maybe married someone with kids...i could see her coming back...but she brings nothing other then to rattle Tamra..and that isn't hars to do. Peggy does that already without even trying lol

So confused...almost like a reset or a different timeline?

On paper, Carol seemed like a typical ingenure...bland and insipid...yet seeing her in clips...she was anything but bland. Didn't she leave in 1982? I often think Marland would have done well with her.

Next week Meghan is back to being Nancy Drew..excited I'm also read8ng Tinsley novel that was written in 2012...light and breezy...what Carole Radizell tried to do with the Widows Guide..but didn't quite succeed.

My guess is that they paired Hogan (show hog) with Patti to tie him to Jo...since 1986 was when the show started focusing back on Jo again. Didnt they deage Patti when the last actress came on to play her? I think the character would have been 40 at least...and the shoe could habe cast a 40 year old and still paired her with Hogan..who was late 30s.