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This shows that multiple stories could be balanced on a half hour show. You can tell Bill Bell was still show runner at the time. It's funny that Stephanie rewrites history cause she was just as bad as Brooke was. While Eric was attractive, I don't think he was worth it...and didn't get why Beth, Brooke and Stephanie were hot to trot for him. Seeing Donna in this episode makes me understand more why the original actress quit a few short months later. She's just a talk to..and the original actress said her main rrason fir keaving was due to being just a talk to for Brooke. Sad since her character drive quite a bit of story from 1987 to 1989/90. Id forgotten Felicia worked at Spectra.. I recall she did one fashion show for them..with an environmental theme..and I think that was when she was clued in aboit Jake/Macy...but details are hazy.

But do you think the writers changed the character based on the actress? Sometimes a writer will shift a character based on how a new performer plays the scenes written.

She seemed more confident and possessing of a backbone. I often wonder how she would have played the story of MJ being a former hooker.

Ed and Norma...one of the more grounded stories from the original series especially in the first season.

There are parts of 1981 that were quite good. It seemed like the Matthews family was getting renewed focus....and you had Alice/Sally coming back. I liked Jennifer runyon's sally...and it's interesting when she leaves...that the role of interloper in Donna/Peter's life transfers to Cecile....cause Mary page Keller had a different take on the part then runyon did (not sure about the brief recast between the two) I thought waiting a few months after the recast Alice was there before bringing on a recast Steve would have been smart had they not replaced Alice so quickly. Maybe, the show thought she played Alice too harsh..and thought the character should have been more ingenurish...but Alice wad never a true ingenure...she was sarcastic, strong willed and stubborn..and wasnt gullible. JC played that with Alice...and Harney also played Alice that way even though she had a shrill undertone. I will agree 1982 was a forgettable year..and it seemed like 1983 to 1984 was an attempt to forget most of what happened in 1982...in some ways.

1991 was a great year...the rebuilding/transformation if the show from Pam long's era to Curlee and co's era. 1992 wad the last year where I thought the show was flawless....1993 had some great stuff..but Mo's death short circuited a wonderful potential storyline that started in late 1991...ed/lillian/maureen....people would be torn...sides would be taken. We know Roger and vanessa would take Mo's side...but id be on the fence over whose side Holly would take.. since she had become friends with Mo ad well as her close friendship with Ed...yet would have felt sympathy for Lillian as well. Blake and Ross would be an interesting question since both had close ties to ed/mo...alan Michael as well given he and Ed were close. Such a shame.

Guess who is now trying make up lol Guess since she and Gretchen are bosom buddies...makeup not so bad lol Will this succeed..or go the way of her jean line? http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/vicki-gunvalson-la-splash-cosmetics-lipstick-collaboration?cid=soc_dg_fb_Lookbook_RHOC

I do recall dru/neil/cricket/nina/Danny hanging together some in the early 90s.. I'm not surprised Ashley was involved with Dru's early story......she and Olivia were written as old college chums/sorority sisters...and that connection was maintained/mentioned through the early 2000s. I think I bought Brenda's Ashley and Olivia being friends mire so of the three Ashleys...if that makes sense.

What's funny is that t amra offered a few times to help her and shannon's excuse was that the gym is 30 minutes away. Reading shannon's blog about the trainer going 'wow' and not being bothered.. it shows me that she is conditioned to accept that...to fuel her victim complex. With that said, seeing a clip of next week of Shannon teaching Sophie to drive...she and Vicki are so similar lol. I wish Sophie got a talking head...all she would have to do is roll her eyes and shrug her shoulders and say 'that's just mom'. rhony Luann is reality tv gold only on vacations

RHOC Good balance between the old format with some drama mixed in. Shannon fascinates me..i give her props for showcasing her struggle with her weight...and seeing her with her trainer confirmed for me that I made the right decision not getting a gym membership. I think Shannon should maybe invest in a bicycle. Kelly is pure trash and exactly what is wrong with humans nowadays. She better remember that she's a decade away from menopause and could very well end up gaining 40 plus lbs herself. Peggy...i like her. Just because she doesn't bring drama so far doesn't mean she's a dud. Seeing the scene of her discussing breast reconstruction reminds me of what my late mom went through with breast reconstruction herself. Lydia' s tagline should be 'I stick my nose in people's business so they stay out of mine'. Vicki with the cameras all over her office screams 1984. I would quit so fast if I found out about that. Megan's vignettes with baby and Jimmy are cute. T amra is being calm...i hope it lasts...but bybmid season she'll be screaming at someone.

It was a shame that the last few years the show dropped any attempt at being a soap. The introduction of Pretty would have been handled differently had she been introduced in the earlier years vs the later years. Im still amazed Paloma was a pretty interesting character..the complete opposite of her sister Theresa...considering she was introduced in the later years as well.

Oh god...RHOA will soon be like Rhony where one housewife calls all the shots. I was celebrating when toxic Nene went away...and noe I fear the show will revolve around Nene and her demands backstagw...just like new York with bethenny.

I didn't know that Julia and pearl might have been paired...i saw some episodes from fall 1986 after her latest fling didn't work and she and pearl were hanging out...and I did note chemistry. I also thought that she and Dylan (the guy she found on the beach fall 1985) had chemistry..and was surprised the show opted for him to go with Kelly.

It's funny that Julia was on the shoe a year and a half before the show started the process of pairing them. I often wonder had that not worked, would Julia have been written off?

So I've not watched season 3 (waiting to binge it :). I have heard that a lot of the show isn't even set in Twin Peaks..and I have to wonder if perhaps there is some padding going on since the order was supposed to be for 9 episodes then got extended to 18 episodes. Would that be accurate to assume that to be the case?

So going back to RHOC....i will agree that Shannon and Vicki are alike especially on how they mother their daughters. Shannon and how she acted during Sophies first dance, when she was trying on make up, etc....reminds me of season 1 Vicki talking to Brianna before senior prom about not having sex, no drinking, etc...then crashing brianna's date at the mall in season 1. Shannon's oldest just turned 16..and I can see Shannon doing those things by the time her oldest is a senior. Hopefully, the spirit shown in one of her twins Stella will outwit the helicopter parenting of Shannon.

Just happened...and in slow motion

It wasn't a bad episode of RHONY..but I think if rather have had Ramona sit out the trip. Sonja vs Tinsley, Bethenny being her usual bitter self and Luann and Dorinda would have been enough. I think for season 10, they need to freshen up the cast a bit. Or perhaps they need to take a cue from OC and not all film together as a group all the time.

This is eeriee that T amra is the calm one. Twilight zone territory.

I think both celeb and angel come in 1988. You wonder about Angel for awhile...and you don't truly get the answers till 1990/1991.

Rhoc I love the balance between the old format and the drama/confrontation style. I was hesitant about having seven women as housewives...but if it means that Vicki or Kelly aren't featured so much during certain episodes..i might change my mind. Peggy is intriguing so far...and seeing that she is dealing with breast cancer and a double mastectomy..reminds me of the struggles my late mom had with breast cancer. Regarding Lydia vs. Shannon...both are in the wrong. I think Lydia was a little pot stirrer...but Shannon reacted too over the top. Had some flashbacks to season 9 when Lydia kept saying Shannon was yelling...but the footage the editors shown didn't really support Shannon yelling. In this case, it's all perception over what one defines as yelling. After the harshness of RHONY, the toxic elements of Potomac and Atlanta(I think season 3 could stand for some timeouts where none of the women film together and do separate narrarices)...RHOC is my fav

Isn't it true when Bethenny returnes...a lot of heathers stuff wasn't shown and kristen didn't have a whole lot focused on her till the end of the season? I admit when season 7 of NY came..i was interested to see Ramona post divorce, and how heather/kristen/Carole would mesh eith Bethenny. Sadly...the show became all Bethenny...and we hardly got to see Ramona in her day to day life...and come on...Ramona on dates would have been comic/reality gold. So I get why Ramona is pissed at Bethenny.

Luann and Ramona have always worked as friendlies. Once the two made up in season 5...they were fun to watch. Is it bad that I have grown to love season 5?

Blake had to be adjusted...just seeing Liz's first days as Blake and how she delivered her lines...they had to adjust the character. SS had a very dry and sarcastic way she delivered her lines...made Blake cool and calm...with a biting wit. Liz's reading of those lines was more like a spoiled rich girl hence the adjustment to the character.

This is why I'm not feeling NY....because bethenny is calling the shots and all focus is on her. Heather, kristen, and Jules were cut cause they happened to let Bethenny know that she ain't all that....though I think Bethenny actually respected Heather. That's why I dread Nene coming bacj to Atlanta...cause she almost had that same power before she left. Teresa is the same on NJ. That's why I kind of still like OC cause none of the women hold that power..not even Vicki. Headther dubrow found out she didn't have that power quickly. OC is the show that gets little love from Andy....heck Wendy Williams hardly talks about the OC anymore on her show....yet the OG keeps going.