1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

Giving Sidwell control and power over all these people is BORING.

There's no reason he can't just take out Sonny without doing ANY of this.

Yes!!! all roads leading back to Sidwell behind every nefarious action in town is repetitive and unexciting. GH did this with Heather and Cyrus as well.

Why does GH continuously spawn new children for these characters. I would almost have accepted this more if they said Peter August was alive and underwent facial reconstruction surgery to reingrain himself in Maxi's life.

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by Planet Soap

GH has consistently had problems with the big bad being connected to everything as far back as Guza. Jerry Jacks, Helena or JF's Franco, anyone? For some reason GH especially loves to keep a villain, drag them out until the end of time, finally finish the story and when you connect the dots and think about the arc you always wonder why they didn't just take out so and so in the first place? They spend years of time wasted on side projects and not the end goal.

Nice cliffhanger. I suspected "Nathan" wasn't Nathan. But, is this some random twin for the DNA test they did to match?

But, honestly, let's get to the real MVP for today's episode, and that would be Rory Gibson's running shorts. Those alone should get an Emmy nom! YUM!

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by 1974mdp

30 minutes ago, carolineg said:

GH has consistently had problems with the big bad being connected to everything as far back as Guza. Jerry Jacks, Helena or JF's Franco, anyone? For some reason GH especially loves to keep a villain, drag them out until the end of time, finally finish the story and when you connect the dots and think about the arc you always wonder why they didn't just take out so and so in the first place? They spend years of time wasted on side projects and not the end goal.

They have always done the umbrella big bad story. But some of them just will not end, and became too all encompassing. It’s been especially bad the last few years. Cyrus and Peter both come to mind.

To me there was no reason to tie Willow to Sidwell for one.

32 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

They have always done the umbrella big bad story. But some of them just will not end, and became too all encompassing. It’s been especially bad the last few years. Cyrus and Peter both come to mind.

To me there was no reason to tie Willow to Sidwell for one.

Yes. Willow being tied to Sidwell is unnecessary. Maybe she will be the one to do him in lol.

With "Nathan" being another random Cesar spawn it feels like we just did this with Peter. And he's connected to Maxie too? Ugh.

16 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Yes. Willow being tied to Sidwell is unnecessary. Maybe she will be the one to do him in lol.

All in a day's work for Port Charles' newest contract killer, lol!

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by Khan

1 hour ago, Khan said:

All in a day's work for Port Charles' newest contract killer, lol!

That would actually be wonderful. The entire town, cops, mobsters, and the WSB hemming and hawing over Sidwell for at least a year and Willow just casually kills him in her pantsuit and goes and picks her annoying kids after lol.

5 hours ago, carolineg said:

He's doing way too much for fun instead killing Sonny or whatever his actual goal is.

It’s crazy he doesn’t just make a direct attack and kill on Sonny since he’s supposed to be the biggest baddest supervillain to ever live.

Does Nathan’s twin or whatever he is have his memories or did someone just give him cliff notes?

1 minute ago, Antoyne said:

It’s crazy he doesn’t just make a direct attack and kill on Sonny since he’s supposed to be the biggest baddest supervillain to ever live.

All of the post-2015 villains are like this. They hem and haw and stay forever because Frank or his pet writers fall in love with a character actor they hired (Jeff Kober, Wes Ramsey, Carlo Rota, etc.) and want to keep them, so after a big violent splash they do nothing but make vague moves for months or years and somehow Sonny and Jason do nothing against them either, because Frank wants to keep these actors around. And it makes Sonny, Jason and their crew, to say nothing of Anna and the PCPD, look pathetic.

That's a big part of why you have Sonny (and often Jason) reduced to a talk-to these days. Sonny's major role on the show is being a sounding board or recap device for other people's storylines or commenting on what other people (Britt, Lucas, etc.) are planning to do about Sidwell. Even Jason finally making a (failed) move of his own on Cullum was merely Jason taking his own initiative to try and help the woman he's sleeping with. It was not a mob operation and did not strike directly at Sidwell. Given recent times I think a couple rumors may be true that they very nearly put Jason officially into the WSB before deciding to bring Britt back and pivoting the story to focus on her and her annoying family. For all intents and purposes major story focuses on these villains and the WSB, not the mob. Sonny and the mob are an afterthought.

That's not to say I want Sonny Hospital again. I think there can be some mob drama from time to time but I don't want it to consume the show anew. And I don't think Mo can really handle any heavy lifting at this point, so I'm not weeping for the lack of heavy Sonny action. But the way they hang the show on these antagonists just makes the lead characters look pathetic and ineffectual. I knew it would happen with Sidwell too once he came to town. It's been over a year since this man deep-fried Michael and they've done nothing.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Vee

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

All of the post-2015 villains are like this. They hem and haw and stay forever because Frank or his pet writers fall in love with a character actor they hired (Jeff Kober, Wes Ramsey, Carlo Rota, etc.) and want to keep them, so after a big violent splash they do nothing but make vague moves for months or years and somehow Sonny and Jason do nothing against them either, because Frank wants to keep these actors around. And it makes Sonny, Jason and their crew, to say nothing of Anna and the PCPD, look pathetic.

That's a big part of why you have Sonny (and often Jason) reduced to a talk-to these days. Sonny's major role on the show is being a sounding board or recap device for other people's storylines or commenting on what other people (Britt, Lucas, etc.) are planning to do about Sidwell. Even Jason finally making a (failed) move of his own on Cullum was merely Jason taking his own initiative to try and help the woman he's sleeping with. It was not a mob operation and did not strike directly at Sidwell. Given recent times I think a couple rumors may be true that they very nearly put Jason officially into the WSB before deciding to bring Britt back and pivoting the story to focus on her and her annoying family. For all intents and purposes major story focuses on these villains and the WSB, not the mob. Sonny and the mob are an afterthought.

That's not to say I want Sonny Hospital again. I think there can be some mob drama from time to time but I don't want it to consume the show anew. And I don't think Mo can really handle any heavy lifting at this point, so I'm not weeping for the lack of heavy Sonny action. But the way they hang the show on these antagonists just makes the lead characters look pathetic and ineffectual. I knew it would happen with Sidwell too once he came to town. It's been over a year since this man deep-fried Michael and they've done nothing.

I don’t remember when I gave up GH but back then Sonny and Jason would easily dispatch of characters and actors I preferred over them with the absolute quickness. It’s actually insane to me not only have they done jack [!@#$%^&*] to avenge Michael, but Sidwell even has Sonny by the balls with Laura. Like what? As you said they’re completely ineffectual now and also I don’t want a return to Sonny’s Hospital. But there’s gotta be some sort of middle ground or at least make it a story that now that they’re older times are catching up to them. Something, anything.

3 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t remember when I gave up GH but back then Sonny and Jason would easily dispatch of characters and actors I preferred over them with the absolute quickness. It’s actually insane to me not only have they done jack [!@#$%^&*] to avenge Michael, but Sidwell even has Sonny by the balls with Laura. Like what?

People say it's crazy Jason did not take the shot on Cullum when he had it and they're right. I don't need these guys to be the same tiresome godlike tryhards they were in the 2000s, I hated them often then, but there has to be a happy medium that does not make them and the show just ridiculous. I remember when Cyrus bombed the Floating Rib, killed all those people and put Lulu in a coma and Laura vowed to finish him (before learning he was her brother). Then she did nothing to him. No one did, not Sonny or Jason, not anyone.

Villains did improbably hang around from time to time in the 2000s (the Zaccharas, Manny Ruiz) but things still happened. They made big moves on each other and some would die or go away, or they would checkmate each other with various dealings, like Sonny foolishly marrying Claudia for power to unite the warring families. Now all Sonny does is sit around worrying about Laura and Britt and Lucas, or give Gio life advice.

I would sooner see younger, newer characters moved into these active action roles, and Jason should be in the (cleaned-up) WSB or a contractor for them for real. He basically is these last two years anyway, for all the stuff he's done with/for them instead of Sonny. But regardless you've got to stop letting these villains just roll everyone in town perpetually, whether it's Sonny or Anna or Laura or whoever else. I am tired of the scenes where Mayor Laura kowtows to Cueball.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Vee

10 hours ago, 1974mdp said:

But, honestly, let's get to the real MVP for today's episode, and that would be Rory Gibson's running shorts. Those alone should get an Emmy nom! YUM!

😂😂😂

I can't take my eyes off him when he's on air, even when scene partners are boring.

He was criminally wasted on YR. They never used his full potential as an actor.

13 hours ago, carolineg said:

Trina and Kai were actually really dumb today with Willow. They kept obviously slipping up in the silliest ways. Willow is not stupid. Besides Chase will defend his girl Willow to the death (hopefully).

Looks like she might figure it out in today's episode.

Drew figured out Willow shot him. I wonder what he will do, if anything, due to his condition.

Chase really looked hot in yesterday's episode.

@Antoyne and @Vee-I actually think both Sidwell and Sonny/Jason are ineffective. Sure Sidwell's has made moves, most notably setting Michael on fire, but all he generally does is take actions that result in minor setbacks or small wins. He runs the entire town by blackmailing people, but his son was still murdered so, good job?

I agree both Sonny and Jason are completely incompetent at this point and yet by doing nothing Sidwell still took the hardest hit.

Obviously this will all drag out for many more months because Jason is in prison or whatever, so I expect a whole lot of lateral moves until Steve returns.

46 minutes ago, carolineg said:

@Antoyne and @Vee-I actually think both Sidwell and Sonny/Jason are ineffective. Sure Sidwell's has made moves, most notably setting Michael on fire, but all he generally does is take actions that result in minor setbacks or small wins. He runs the entire town by blackmailing people, but his son was still murdered so, good job?

True, but I did mention that. Like I said, these villains all start out with big moves then meander around doing vague stuff so FV doesn't have to fire anyone he likes. Meanwhile Sonny and Jason do nothing.