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16 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Phyllis ruins every scene she walks in on.

-- I know this is shallow, but I really wish Tamara Braun would get a glow-up.

She's a very good actor, but this is the 3rd soap stint in a row where she looks like she runs the local laundromat.

That hair is tragic. The length is all wrong and pulling it all off her face like she's some dewy-faced ingenue does not work.

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Right. The hair distracts from her acting.

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2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Dare I put it out there...if Cane/Giggly Heffa is going to be a thing, could they circle back to Nick/Lily so Giggly Heffa's head can explode?

Nick/Lily had great chemistry in that fantasy sequence in 2016.

Victor is in jail for arranging for Marco to repeatedly rape Phyllis. His family is mad at him, but Victor imagines that his family would have fallen apart if he had left town twenty years prior, and what they would be like now if he'd been gone.

ANYWAYS, in Victor's imagination, Nick is a ruthless heartless mogul and is with Lily. The Nick/Lily ( "Lick" ) chemistry was pretty good. To the point that it's long-remembered even though only part of a single episode.

It's in the vault as March 2, 2016

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20 hours ago, janea4old said:

Nick/Lily had great chemistry in that fantasy sequence in 2016.

Victor is in jail for arranging for Marco to repeatedly rape Phyllis. His family is mad at him, but Victor imagines that his family would have fallen apart if he had left town twenty years prior, and what they would be like now if he'd been gone.

ANYWAYS, in Victor's imagination, Nick is a ruthless heartless mogul and is with Lily. The Nick/Lily ( "Lick" ) chemistry was pretty good. To the point that it's long-remembered even though only part of a single episode.

It's in the vault as March 2, 2016

Oh yeah...There have been a few rare times Nick and Lily have been around each other and seen those two have surprisingly chemistry. It did seem like the show might even go there, but alas.

In any case, it would be funny if they did that now given Lily vs Giggly Heffa has been happening for the last year.

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Monday's show saw the grand launch of Abbott Communications-the company that is going to be a game changer in the media world!

And what a launch-a 1950's theme party-WTF??

It consisted of various characters in vaguely 1950's attire, with the reason being that TV was a game changer in the 50's as AC would be today. OK....

God forbid we had the cast dressed to the nines at a glamorous event.

The decor consisted of some old TV sets scattered around the Jazz lounge. Sally was fretting that maybe she should have got Pietro the Party Planner but Billy assured her she did a fantastic job.

Pietro must be laughing all the way to the bank as he buys a few ballooons and chintzy decorations from the local mini mall and has the likes of the Newmans paying top $$.

This launch consisted of a few cast members and a couple of extras. Of course, Phyllis has to be there, vamping around. Sally had a few vague words about content and delivery. No specifics as the whole thing is total Crapola. Although starting a company with no staff and offices is quite an achievement.

But wait , the dastardly Victor Newman has an evil plan hatching from his recliner rocker. If Eric Braeden isn't delivering every line from cue cards, he's sure doing a great job of making it seem so.

Sally's speech is so meaningless, all gathered would rather look at a message coming through on their finds.

Oh no the Abbott family are facing destruction at the hands of Victor. Stay Tuned.

Just really sad to see the downfall of this show.

But Josh Griffith deliberately writes this big business, big event nonsense that is embarrassing to watch.

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2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Monday's show saw the grand launch of Abbott Communications-the company that is going to be a game changer in the media world!

And what a launch-a 1950's theme party-WTF??

It consisted of various characters in vaguely 1950's attire, with the reason being that TV was a game changer in the 50's as AC would be today. OK....

God forbid we had the cast dressed to the nines at a glamorous event.

The decor consisted of some old TV sets scattered around the Jazz lounge. Sally was fretting that maybe she should have got Pietro the Party Planner but Billy assured her she did a fantastic job.

Pietro must be laughing all the way to the bank as he buys a few ballooons and chintzy decorations from the local mini mall and has the likes of the Newmans paying top $$.

This launch consisted of a few cast members and a couple of extras. Of course, Phyllis has to be there, vamping around. Sally had a few vague words about content and delivery. No specifics as the whole thing is total Crapola. Although starting a company with no staff and offices is quite an achievement.

But wait , the dastardly Victor Newman has an evil plan hatching from his recliner rocker. If Eric Braeden isn't delivering every line from cue cards, he's sure doing a great job of making it seem so.

Sally's speech is so meaningless, all gathered would rather look at a message coming through on their finds.

Oh no the Abbott family are facing destruction at the hands of Victor. Stay Tuned.

Just really sad to see the downfall of this show.

But Josh Griffith deliberately writes this big business, big event nonsense that is embarrassing to watch.

You nailed it. I have nothing else to add.

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I decided to watch today for the first time since Chance was unceremoniously tossed aside.

I thought the costuming was refreshing and flattering on all the actors. The win goes to dressing Chelsea as a 50s dutiful housewife on the night she realizes Adam's loyalty to Victor will always win.

There's no doubt that Graz is MS's best screen partner - even better than SC. The rapid fire way he spit those lines - basically saying everything the audience feels about Phyllis - in a humorous manner. In reality if anyone else said those lines, they'd come across as mean spirited.

I am surprised at the chem between CK + BF. I absolutely didn't feel it in those early scenes, but there might be potential.

Can Josh please stop writing Devon as such an absolute downer? When was the last time Devon had anything positive to say? We know Bryton can do so much more.

EB was really struggling in this episode. I can't recall another time when his delivery of every single line was off. Eh, he's 84 and I respect that he still wants to work.

Honestly, I'm grateful I can tune in to Y&R after a hiatus to see TGVN ruling the roost. As we all know, it won't always be this way.

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Yes I have to admire that at 84 Eric still wants to work. Although after a lifetime of work I wonder why he still wants to? Maybe just enjoy his remaining years? Oh well there are many like him who seem to define themselves through work,.

However, writing Victor as he was 20/30 years ago does not match what we are seeing on-screen.

Often it appears as though he and screen partners have no connection, as he pauses and everything seems to halt while delivers his lines.

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