BTG: November 2025 Discussion Thread 

3 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

I can’t help but to get drawn in by Dani and Andre but it just angers me that it’s so obvious that they’re not endgame.

I really hope the writers truly notice that Dani and Andre work and change plans. At the end of the day Bill was still a serial cheater and married his daughter’s best friend.

Eva and Kat is my favorite rivalry on soaps.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by Antoyne

Count me in on not wanting Bill/Dani to be end game.

It takes two to tango, and I think that Dani wasn't this wounded bird in that marriage especially when it has been implied that she's been mentally unbalanced for sometime now (and I think that could be part of the reason Naomi is just damn angry all the time).

Dani will break Andre's heart in the same way that Bill broke her heart.

 

3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

-- It's always amazing to me that these "terrible breakdowns" (by writers so bad they shall not be named) are saved by incredible script writers. Every time 😂

Like I said before, I was worried, but Jazmen really does have a thing for taking breakdown writers that are not my favorites and making lemonade out of lemons. I'm glad he's sticking around.

 

That said...I think today was the first time I found him having slang in his scripts jarring. Uh oh. lol. 

3 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I really hope the writers truly notice that Dani and Andre work and change plans.

I feel like they finally noticed in the viewing and online opinion that Dani and Andre are where the lightning in the bottle is FINALLY, SORRY, ASHLEY and started to run with it.

 

That said...I do still worry because it's clear MVJ wants to play Dani/Bill since they were one of the main A stories...helped by Timon and Karla also having great chemistry.

 

I honestly think they were not counting on a full blown triangle where people are taking sides. Go 'head, Karla Mosley!!! 

TeamKat.

 

Eva wanted to take it to Hades by walking into Kat's house with attitude and using the B word. So don't get all teary-eyed now that Kat wanna matched energy. 

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by Taoboi

10 hours ago, Taoboi said:

TeamKat.

 

Eva wanted to take it to Hades by walking into Kat's house with attitude and using the B word. So don't get all teary-eyed now that Kat wanna matched energy. 

 

 

IA. I hate how she flat out lies and leaves out important details when she recounts events to people. Like I said Kat is herself 100% of the time. Love her or hate her, you see what you get. Eva code switches and is a different person depending on who she interacts with. She's Leslie without the wigs for her shifting personalities

10 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I really hope the writers truly notice that Dani and Andre work and change plans. At the end of the day Bill was still a serial cheater and married his daughter’s best friend.

Eva and Kat is my favorite rivalry on soaps.

same but I almost expect Ashley to still be a factor (WHY?) even though the recent scenes should reaffirm that she really is no competition to Dani for Andre's affection.

I wish we at least got more Kat vs Leslie bc they were the best feud over the summer. I miss them interacting

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Cheap21

6 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

IA. I hate how she flat out lies and leaves out important details when she recounts events to people. Like I said Kat is herself 100% of the time. Love her or hate her, you see what you get. Eva code switches and is a different person depending on who she interacts with. She's Leslie without the wigs for her shifting personalities

same but I almost expect Ashley to still be a factor (WHY?) even though the recent scenes should reaffirm that she really is no competition to Dani for Andre's affection.

I wish we at least got more Kat vs Leslie bc they were the best feud over the summer. I miss them interacting

Exactly! And then what to sit there and be mousy when anyone not Kat calls her out on it. She really is like her mother. Just smh.

Just like how I feel MVJ was hoping that people would want Bill/Dani, I felt she wanted Ashley/Andre. But I hope now that Thomson is here, she's behind the shift away from that as well.

Writers:
Ron Carlivati
Danielle Paige

Director:
Phideaux Xavier

I don't think there is any comparison between Bill/Dani and Ashley/Andre. Bill and Dani have real heat and there are a lot of fans who have been into that reconnection online, particularly since Chelsea's kidnapping. Ashley and Andre, not so much.

I can understand people being divided on Bill, Dani, Andre, etc. and who they want her to end up with, especially given how Bill treated her in their marriage. That's just good soap. Both couples work for me. I do think Bill and Dani are endgame and I'm good with that but I have no need for a rush to get there. I'd be happy if the latest Dupree-Richardson marriage lasted another year or more.

Leslie has the worst bedside manner, geez. I wouldn't want her around me if I'm sick or dying.

Ok the Leslie/Shanice rivalry is good, I love a feisty Shanice!

date: Thursday, November 20, 2025 | Ron Carlivati, Danielle Paige | Phideaux Xavier

• Peaches sounds like she is about to cough her ass to death.

• Get her ass, Martin. Lay down the law to the spoilt bitch who thinks she is God's gift to the earth.

• Shanice is not having any of what Dana is trying to sell. Dana, you have met your damn match.

• Not the con artist child bride trying to cover up what Naomi walked in on. Hilarious.

• Not the spoilt bitch counting up what Eva "owes them". Martin is right on this one. Surprised how level-headed he is about this. And good on him for correcting the "half" mess.

• The con artist child bride is really tangled up in some hot-ass messes. Naomi does not owe you a single thing. At all.

• YES, YOU ARE A TOTAL BITCH! A SPOILT ONE AT THAT!

• Chelsea, you had me until the end; I can appreciate her trying to change a stubborn, entitled mind.

• Martin having Eva's back is so pure. I love seeing that side of him.

• That smirk of Bill drinking the poison is ridiculous.

• Shanice vs. Dana could actually be juicy. And Dana, Ted is not your man.

Notes:

• Ugh. Not another day with the writer as the breakdown writer. Thankfully, we have Paige today to make sure things are better executed.

Kat is a total moron

So Ted had nothing to do with blowing the Richardson family apart, no it was all Eva 🙄

Inject Ted/Shanice/Leslie in my veins !!!!!!! Thank whoever for putting Shanice with these two and away from Ashley/Derek.

Kat was dripping with venom today.

Hayley be quick on her feet ill give her that

I'm still rooting for Ted and June.