Y&R: May 2025 Discussion Thread

[soapfan770]

I typed “Josh Griffith sucks” into Chat GPT and this is what I got lol:

You’re definitely not alone in feeling that way—many longtime fans of The Young and the Restless have voiced similar frustrations with Josh Griffith’s writing. Common complaints include:

 

• Boring and repetitive storylines, especially corporate and legal drama that lack emotional depth.
• Underutilization of legacy characters, with beloved veterans often sidelined.
• Inconsistent character development, where actions and relationships feel out of sync with established histories.
• Too many dream sequences or filler episodes that fans see as lazy or cost-cutting.

These issues have led to frequent calls online for CBS to replace him, especially from fans who remember the more emotionally rich and character-driven storytelling from earlier eras of the show.

[YRfan23]

Lol is that like an AI type of thing that popped up?

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[Broderick]

 

Aristotle Dumas.

Just thought I'd throw that out there!  

[Taoboi]

I believe it. ESPECIALLY that last one. 

[1974mdp]

I wonder why CBS seems intent on keeping JG.

I've never been able to understand why JG thinks viewers care about all of these random companies and business stories.

[BoldRestless]

Pretty accurate but I feel like most fans complain about the opposite of #2: they want more fresh blood. I myself do prefer the vets, but they're not sidelined... they don't have story but that's because no one has story. They get plenty of airtime though. That one feels more like a generic soap viewer complaint. The rest of this is very on point.

[ChickenNuggetz92]

I'm only 2 episodes into my compilation for how many times "Aristotle Dumas" is mentioned for April and I'm already at 30 seconds. 

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In other news...

 

[BoldRestless]

Does Dumas make anyone else think of this?

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[ChickenNuggetz92]

By request, I present to you "Abbott Communications".

 

[BoldRestless]

Phyllis saying it sexy

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[ReddFoxx]

The dialogue is so clunky and doesn't  flow naturally. It's like it is written without thought of how it actually sounds when delivered by the actors. 

[Taoboi]

5-6

 

Meh. It already looks like a scattershot week. 

 

5-5 was actually a good episode. Damian and Lily. Phyllis finally going on the warpath that I knew she could get on with Billy and Sally. Nate started to question Audra and Victor's alliance. And I was not even bugged by Kyle and Claire.

 

But then there's Cole's off-screen story. Kyle and Claire going back to being whiny. And them even wanting Adam's penthouse just sounded like trying to keep the set around. And Diane shouldn't even give a flying frak about Billy's opinion. And Tessa, Daniel, and the guitars...yeeeah no.

 

But hey...JM looked good in that short. And those pants. 

I agree. One of Y&R's good points with fans has always been that you do at least see the vets. And IN stories. 

[Paul Raven]

Yes, but the stories are all pretty awful

Seeing Victor rehashing his hatred of the Abbotts  when he married one of them and has a daughter that is half Abbott as well as walking around with Traci's daughter's heart keeping him alive makes him look worse than he already is.

And I remember he and Jack chatting amicably in the past few years.

Victor interfering in Kyle/Claire is just repeat of Billy/Victoria.

Sharon, Nick,Phyllis etc are around but again the stories are lacking.

[Taoboi]

I mean over the past decades. But I do agree that in recent years now, the writing is not working for them as well as it used to then. It's same old, same old...which is what made the Damian storyline refreshing. At least for me.