BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread

[Liberty City]

Nope; I think that was all online speculations. The breakdown, for "Sara," via Soap Hub:

❝ She is a Black female (mid-late 40s). Sara is described as the "Jackson family wild child. Free-spirited, beautiful, headstrong, and uninhibited." Sara dropped out of high school to pursue a modeling career. However, Joseph persuaded her to give it up to be a full-time mother and housewife. As often is the case, old habits die hard, and as infidelity rears its ugly head, so does revenge…. ❞

[Soapsuds]

Really just proves how awful Ron Carlivati is as a writer. 

[Taoboi]

I thought it was a good attempt. Perhaps by the time they have another confrontation, there will be more fire to Hayley. 

 

Of course, I still feel that Dani will ultimately blow her out of the water. But it will make it better to watch.

Or how well people know his style. I'm more curious to see one of Jamey's episodes for a counterpoint to what I see people say about his scripts on DAYS versus what has been mentioned about his work on Ambitions. 

[Liberty City]

Absolutely; I don't think Hayley has gotten to that place yet of "matching" Dani. But Marquita Goings is a fabulous actor who was tailormade for the role. Perfect casting.

[Vee]

It's a nuanced issue. Ron has done good work over the years, particularly in dialogue. But I think his discipline as well as tonal control and sense of taste has seriously degraded since the old days almost 20 years ago now (God we're all getting old), and he's gotten lazy and tacky. I do not trust him to HW a show atm (at least not a sole HW). And while I do think keeping Carlivati on breakdowns limits the damage he can do the fact that you can see his house style (or at least believe it's all his) in an episode with his name on it, where a character gets up to a few too many campy antics at once, is something to note.

Is it the end of the world? No, KM was fun to watch. But I need Dani to start doing less, or just do other things. Anything else but more Bill and Hayley terrorism for a week or two.

[Soapsuds]

Probably just as bad as Ron's Friday episode. I cringe to think both will be reunited at a new and promising soap.

[Vee]

That angle cracked me up. I was waiting for Ashley to start stroking the bald spot. Derek is singularly unappealing to me.

The awkward family scenes with The Richardsons! were bizarre and seemed like they were all filmed in close-ups at different times. I like how someone clearly told Martin to smile more while woodenly declaiming his dialogue about "Young Horny Bastards!" to his teenage daughter with a big boisterous grin. Very strange. Though everyone but Martin in the family can still act at least.

Edited 20 hours ago by Vee

[skiman12082004]

In yesterday's episode, I found it odd the lack of background music when Dani was home alone, right before calling Andre. Actually, the entire episode seemed to lack background music that could have enhanced the scenes more. 

Overall, I enjoyed the episode and again, I noticed small improvements with Brandon Claybon. As already pointed out, having the kids in scenes with Martin & Smitty helps immensely. 

And I love how Daphne Duplaix has been in every episode. Nicole is my favorite character so far.

[Liberty City]

Oh see, I loved it. I find American soaps rely too much on music, and it ruins scenes. Let the scenes be empty. It's a refreshing change.

[Darn]

If one of Martin and Smitty's nearly adult children have a baby Vernon and Anita will be great-great-grandparents. That's obvious but I had to type it out because it just sounds so ridiculous. It's the type of joke we used to make about shortsighted SORASing, like on Days when aging Scotty Banning suddenly made Julie, who was just barely entering middle-age, grandmother to a grown man. Did no one think this through?

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[Chris B]

I do think it's pretty clear that the biggest mistake the show has made thus far is having Martin be Nicole and Ted's son instead of Anita and Vernon. Especially when you consider how strong his chemistry is with Vernon. The fact that the teens work so well with Martin and Smitty only goes to further highlight why this would've made more sense.

I feel like Nicole and Ted would've made more sense having Kat as an only child which would've only made the potential of Eva being his daughter more juicy. 

[BetterForgotten]

A lot of new soaps have some type of reset in their first year - I wonder at which point we’ll be getting one.  At the very least, they’ll likely be some recasting for the contract cast as some contract cycles start to expire. 

[Vanguardian53]

Martin and his nightmares is reminding me of "Jake Mcclaine" from B&B decades ago. Jake was having nightmares ultimately discovering he was molested by a pig of an uncle.

In this case, the show then says that the reason Martin is gay is because of the molestation. Lots of gay people are claiming that in real life.

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Vanguardian53

[Cheap21]

I fear with the making a big deal about allowing that daughter to date that she's gonna get pregnant and mae Nicole a great grandmother which I dont want to see

 

I do think it would be weird to see Martin as Naomi's uncle when they are practically the same age. I know it happens (my brother is older than our uncle) but its still weird to me

[BetterForgotten]

I really hope they don’t go down that route. There’s already a pervasive ideology from right wing bigots in this country that most gay people are gay because of sexual abuse they’ve experienced during childhood. BTG should stay away from feeding into that.

Bill seems to know what the situation is, so I am assuming Martin may have killed someone and it was covered up or some type of other coverup. 

Edited 18 hours ago by BetterForgotten