DAYS: Who’s worse Higley or Carlivati

[Forever8]

I'll never forget some of the stars being like "We've got new cameras and we're allowed to use more vulgar language." And none of that has come to pass in terms of production. 

[te.]

I agree with you here - I think that a lot of people end up thinking that the head writer has the final say, but remember that Ron was essentially told to bring back the Devil as an example.  There's also surely issues with how none of the Abby actresses wanted to commit to the show - considering Kate Mansi went to do General Hospital one suspects there might be reasons for that beyond Ron's control. 

We also can't underestimate that they probably do test panels every now and then to see what people react positively to (some people claimed that the reason Daniel was kept for so long and front-burner was because he tested high there). 

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Leo - a Mostly Sexless Gay with Sassy Lines tests quite well on panels. I think we sometimes overestimate how much people do think about the storylines that are presented.

Edited June 24, 2024 by te.

[Liberty City]

Oh, they definitely got new cameras, and I have comparison of 14 years, and the cameras have definitely improved in the past year's time. The lighting is still a problem (likely due to 4K lights and non-4K cameras, which resulted in the green-look we had for several years). However, the language is another issue... they've pushed boundaries a bit more, but not to the point where it couldn't have aired on NBC. It's disappointing. But again, given the atmosphere of that set, I'm also not surprised by it.

I think a lot expected we'd be seeing bare asses (which we couldn't even get in A Very Salem Christmas or Beyond Salem), hear "fück" & "shït"every other word, and just overall go apeshit over the streaming platform.

[j swift]

Originally, I assumed we weren't seeing more adult language and situations because we were still watching scripts that were written for broadcast TV, or that it was a Peacock mandate.

And, to be fair, there was a very short period of threesomes and casual sex without consequences. However, we still see folks in Salem say 'darn' while The Real Housewives are cussing up a storm on their uncensored feed.  So, it is confusing.

Edited June 24, 2024 by j swift

[Liberty City]

Well, I know for A Very Salem Christmas, Eric Martsolf said his butt-scene was cut because NBC was worried fans were not ready for that... maybe NBCUniversal thinks the same? Baffling. It's 2024. Get over it.

[Michael]

Days still airs on terrestrial TV in other countries, so I assume that's (part of) why we didn't notice a big change content-wise when it jumped to Peacock.

[AMCOLTLLover]

Ron Boy who is doing his 4 Visions and story’s repeatedly for years. I hate his direction so much. 
 

I criticized one story on X and he blocked me. What a loser 

[StevieM]

I think Higley was far worse.  Her material in early 2003, when she wrote the show for about 5 months before JER returned, was by far the worst writing I have ever seen on a soap opera.  

To be fair, I think there are some people who to this day would still insist that Tom Langan was the worst ever.

[Khan]

And I would be one of "some people," lol.

[SteelCity]

I know the cheese stands alone but, I didn't hate Langan-Era. Aside from the Virtual Eden crap, I thought it was pretty damn good! Couldn't miss a day. I was certainly better than post Salem Stalker and the JER clean up era that we remained in for years. I was probably the last time I was addicted to the show. Again, Salem Stalker was good, it had a piss poor denouement though. I will say that I enjoyed Langan btter than anything happening now, or for the past few years. Maybe 2012.

[DaytimeFan]

I agree with you. I have never seen worse writing than Higley in 2003. It is memorable because it was so bad and so dull. 

I agree with you. Aside from the Virtual Eden, which was truly bizarre, I enjoyed much of the Tom Langan era and watched every single day. 

[John]

I agree Highley is dull. Hell so was her OLTL for the most part. If she is this dull how come Corday kept rehiring her in 2008 and then again in 2015?