26 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

I was not a regular of that podcast but I vividly remember the first thing I read that he wrote. It was a write up of AIDS/HIV early on, on all soaps where it had come up. And, he began with AW & went forward & the soap scholarship was excellent. 

I didn't listen to the podcast ever, but I found a lot of his opinions and takes aligned with my own.  That doesn't mean I love him as a fictional writer, but he does have a love and knowledge for the genre.  But most people on this board do as well.  We probably all couldn't write for soaps, I do think a lot of people on here can though (not myself lol)

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

So, if he has all this experience, why is his writing so awful? Some of the worst things we've seen on Days ever (Sarah as Renee, Leo pretending to be Gwen, the friggin giant Duke bear) have been from him. 

I'm not even trying to be mean, that's a serious question. 

I actually tried watching and I couldn't make it either. Serious props to @j swift!

I just don't think loving a genre correlates to good writing.  I think the ideas might be there, but getting from point A to point B is another issue.  Also, no excuse for Duke the Bear.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I just don't think loving a genre correlates to good writing.  I think the ideas might be there, but getting from point A to point B is another issue.  Also, no excuse for Duke the Bear.

That's for sure 😂

3 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

That's for sure 😂

Right?  I just think a good writer would have to think about timing, logistics, actor availability, budget, etc.  I don't think Jamie thinks about these things.  It's just one great broad idea that looks okay on paper.  Again, Duke the bear is not part of this because someone had to be very drunk and high to greenlight that.🤣

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Right?  I just think a good writer would have to think about timing, logistics, actor availability, budget, etc.  I don't think Jamie thinks about these things.  It's just one great broad idea that looks okay on paper.

All that should all be more on Ron then him, if you think about it. 

It's character and pacing that he really should be more focused on, which he is clearly isn't, since his episodes are mostly rushed and people are always acting out of character in them.

4 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

All that should all be more on Ron then him, if you think about it. 

It's character and pacing that he really should be more focused on, which he is clearly isn't, since his episodes are mostly rushed and people are always acting out of character in them.

Absolutely.  I think it's on Ron and the producer.   I still think the ideas and stories are there, but no one is thinking about pacing and character because Jamey is thinking about how many laughs and odd nods to history he can fit in to his one day a week breakdown.  It something that starts from the top.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Absolutely.  I think it's on Ron and the producer.   I still think the ideas and stories are there, but no one is thinking about pacing and character because Jamey is thinking about how many laughs and odd nods to history he can fit in to his one day a week breakdown.  It something that starts from the top.

You're right. It definitely starts at the top.

Which is why I'll never understand why anyone thinks Jamey's writing is good. 

I think there are issues specific to breakdown writing that I would criticize on a Jamey episode.

1. I don't think they are well-balanced, every soap uses short scenes, but there's no rhyme or reason to the order of how scenes progress in an episode.  Two people will talk about something, then in the next scene people are talking about a different topic, then cut to two other people talking about the same plot as the first scene.  Those shifts don't make sense, and it doesn't build to anything.
2. My constant critique of a Jamey episode is that it is disorienting what time of day it is in Salem.  Holly's getting home from school, people are eating dinner, and others are going to bed.  They don't seem to exist in the same timeline.
3. DAYS will frequently feature a story for a few episodes and then switch to another story.  But, when we return to the first story, it is as if characters have been frozen in time, as they haven't moved or spoken since we last saw them.
4. There's not enough interaction throughout the town.  E.g. Stefan still hasn't told Chad that Clyde is threatening him, despite them having two scenes together since the story began.  When the ladies were kidnapped and feared dead, Paulina never reacted to the news.  It is the same people talking about the same thing every episode.

 

6 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

You're right. It definitely starts at the top.

Which is why I'll never understand why anyone thinks Jamey's writing is good. 

Well, when you are dealing with soap fans you really run into a huge variety of opinions, on anything! 

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Absolutely.  I think it's on Ron and the producer.   I still think the ideas and stories are there, but no one is thinking about pacing and character because Jamey is thinking about how many laughs and odd nods to history he can fit in to his one day a week breakdown.  It something that starts from the top.

All true.

To be honest, for me, without Arianne Zucker, DAYS gets an F. She is the only thing elevating this show in any way. Every other element of it (including those mentioned in this latest discussion) is just poorly done.

Looks like Jamey is back lol

 

 

 

 

Well, it's a terrible sign for me, lol.

48 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Looks like Jamey is back lol

 

 

 

 

Damn!

He was gone! Why bring him back?

Proves Janet is a hack EP.

I wish they would just cancel Days. It is a train wreck.

3 minutes ago, jam6242 said:

Well, it's a terrible sign for me, lol.

Same....

I'll never understand the Twitter crowd.

They always rant about how bad the show is, but they're praising the guy who makes it worse #Brainwashedmuch? 😂😂😂

9 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I'll never understand the Twitter crowd.

They always rant about how bad the show is, but they're praising the guy who makes it worse #Brainwashedmuch? 😂😂😂

What horrible news! 

This soap will never improve with these three in charge.

Ron, Jamey and Janet.

8 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

What horrible news! 

This soap will never improve with these three in charge.

Ron, Jamey and Janet.

But no matter what... 

 

😂😂😂

Edited December 9, 20231 yr by AbcNbc247