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I wish this show were setting up a "Who Shot Tucker?" storyline, but I'm sure Griffith couldn't write it. I mean, think of the suspects: Audra, Ashley, Jack, Phyllis, Summer, Daniel. You could even throw in Nate, Adam, Victor, and Nikki if they wanted to. The show needs a wide umbrella story instead of all this corporate battle non-intrigue. 

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20 hours ago, kalbir said:

ED's acting style doesn't lend itself to Ashley being a heroine/romantic lead female. That's why Bill Bell struggled to write a viable love interest for Ashley. Recall the pairings with Brian, Eric, Marc all tanked, and I found the pairing with Steven didn't really work. Bill Bell saw that EB was a match for ED's acting style, that's why Victor/Ashley worked during ED's original run. 

With Ashley/Brad, Bill Bell knew that 1985-1988 Don Diamont was no match acting-wise for ED so he didn't put Ashley/Brad in each other's orbit romantically until Brenda Epperson was in the role. I didn't like that Ashley and Traci became romantic rivals especially since Bill Bell introduced the Abbott daughters as having a good relationship and initially kept them in separate orbits as far as their romances and romantic rivals go.

 

19 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

 

I agree. I am pretty sure Bell originally was contemplating making Traci the daughter of Brent Davis (when he was running around with just a generic baby picture) and I'm so glad they didn't go that way. She already didn't look like the rest of the family and wasn't involved in the family business, and it would have been so easy to have her fade away if that happened. It made more sense to have that happen to beautiful, strong, Ashley. 

 

Traci was always treated as the ugly duckling with Lauren in her ear telling her Danny would never love her and getting used by her professor. Brad was the hot guy who actually liked her. I always thought Brad had only used her for money, but now that so much 80s footage has come out, I can see that was not how it played out on screen. There's some subtext nodding to that but he also appears to have genuine feelings. And then they played so many scenes, including on her own Honeymoon, where women flirt with Brad and then realize he's with Traci and act disgusted and shocked (unpopular opinion: I don't think DD is that hot... the remarks were as OTT as the ones about Cricket!). Given that, I thought it was terrible for Ashley to get together with her sister's big love, when Ashley had the pick of so many men. And of course the Olivia thing was so gross and a step even beyond that. 

I completely understand your views. That's why I prefaced that I did not watch Brad/Traci episodes and by the time I started, Traci was very much a side character who only sometimes visited. I felt like Don and Eileen had good chemistry. 

But I definitely agree that having Traci go through the death of her only daughter was horrible and unnecessary and very short-sighted. Especially since they killed off Cassie few years prior. It was not needed to have another legacy character to be killed off. 

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1 hour ago, Melroser said:

I wish this show were setting up a "Who Shot Tucker?" storyline, but I'm sure Griffith couldn't write it. I mean, think of the suspects: Audra, Ashley, Jack, Phyllis, Summer, Daniel. You could even throw in Nate, Adam, Victor, and Nikki if they wanted to. The show needs a wide umbrella story instead of all this corporate battle non-intrigue. 

I wouldn't be shocked,Tucker is pretty much just TSJ Todd to me. yelling at women and associated with rape. 

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5 hours ago, Melroser said:

I wish this show were setting up a "Who Shot Tucker?" storyline, but I'm sure Griffith couldn't write it. I mean, think of the suspects: Audra, Ashley, Jack, Phyllis, Summer, Daniel. You could even throw in Nate, Adam, Victor, and Nikki if they wanted to. The show needs a wide umbrella story instead of all this corporate battle non-intrigue. 

I like this idea. It could be a great umbrella story.

I, too, am so over the corporate talk.

5 hours ago, Manny said:

 

I completely understand your views. That's why I prefaced that I did not watch Brad/Traci episodes and by the time I started, Traci was very much a side character who only sometimes visited. I felt like Don and Eileen had good chemistry. 

But I definitely agree that having Traci go through the death of her only daughter was horrible and unnecessary and very short-sighted. Especially since they killed off Cassie few years prior. It was not needed to have another legacy character to be killed off. 

Killing Coleen was a HUGE mistake and made no sense at all. And, to give Victor her heart, just rubbed salt in the wound. It also limited Tracy's potential in the future.

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Awww...it's a credit to AL's acting that I have no reason to feel sympathy for Summer since she blew up her life. But her Summer in the park with Chance talking about how she was not sure if she would get back with Kyle because so much had happened at that point resonated. Probably cuz of rl stuff with me thinking the exact same thing, but YES. Good job. I was for a Sharon/Chance/Summer triangle, but that whole scene of her with Chance read as friends hanging out...the first time in their scenes they came across that way. So I guess Chance/Summer are done.

 

Awwwww Katherine flashback. And we know I'm enjoying seeing the mansion. 

 

I still can't believe Diane and Jack did not do a big wedding. But I could say the same about Kyle not being there at the wedding at all. And then his coming out party with Audra in front of all the Abbotts. Just...prick.

 

 

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I said it before, but I'll say it again...I be living for Christine vs Giggly Heffa. And that was a good fight. I did think MS was weak when Christine brought up Summer. The Phyllis I knew would really and truly snap when you bring her kids into a catfight. But I giggled when Christine made that crack about how Giggly Heffa repeats herself...one of MS's acting tics. Meta...?

 

I wish they would just bit the bullet and turn Elena into a villainess. Her eavesdropping on Nikki/Nate and the looks ES had on her face...it's screaming for it to happen.

 

Hmmmm...looks like a matter of time before Sally and Adam get back together. 

 

 

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I could have done without Summer and the green screen rollercoaster. That being said, the show has to go with Chance/Summer. That's where the chemistry is. Chance/Sharon equals boredom. And, Connor Flynn deserves his own storyline beyond just doing police work.

I knew Phyllis would, of course, get off. They should have at least sent her to "jail" for a couple of months and then have her return ready to stir up trouble again.

I wonder if they are planning on using/keeping Christine in any capacity beyond this. I think the show sort of missed the boat with her not ever having kids of her own because she's not really tied to any of the characters beyond friendship.

I feel like CLB would have made sense to be Phyllis' lawyer during all this. Which makes me wonder if he wasn't available and/or isn't really on contract anymore.

 

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I can’t wait to see if Matt Hanvey will make one of his famous videos on that roller coaster nonsense! 😂😂

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