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Members Sapounopera Posted January 9, 2023 Members Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) JFP: the Haircut and the older woman-younger man epic romance. Shows lose their identity and become flat and generic. Edited January 9, 2023 by Sapounopera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted January 9, 2023 Members Share Posted January 9, 2023 Paul Rauch, from OLTL in the 80s, to SB, to Guiding Light; bright lighting, pastels, blondes, blondes, and blondes. A few big sets here and there too. In addition, shows like GL and OLTL lost their diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted January 9, 2023 Members Share Posted January 9, 2023 Labine: comic-relief animals (Foster & Annabelle on GH, Todd’s parrot on OLTL); kooky female supporting characters (Lucy, Lois, Maggie, May Merisi); elevated, erudite dialogue; mob intrigue; dead children. I’m sure there’s much more I’m missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bright Eyes Posted January 9, 2023 Members Share Posted January 9, 2023 Dena Higley: Post it notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Franko Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 Going back to the lack of a salt of the earth mom and striving for more daughter on Agnes Nixon's OLTL, I've started wondering if/hoping that this was part of the initial plans for Sadie and Carla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) I believe Irna herself told a variation of this story on one of her radio soaps. I believe the radio soap was 'The Road of Life' and had a Doctor character suffer amnesia and he ended up on a farm where he fell in love with a widowed woman - who also had a disabled sister-in-law living on the farm. I don't know if Bell had been working for Irna at this time, but evidently, this seemed to be a story he must have noticed and would later repeat twice to much success. Edited January 10, 2023 by BetterForgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 Agnes liked her young love storyline where the protaganists were the innocent girl and the well meaning good guy who were manipulated by outside forces.But she really really only used it repeatedly on AMC. I guess Meredith and Larry on early OLTL would qualify. On AW , Steve wasn't the type. Loving had Stacey and Jack? On AMC,first there was Phil and Tara. Then Cliff and Nina, followed quickly by Jenny and Greg. But there really wasn't a next couple to follow that template. At one point when she took over the writing I think Scott and Becca were given that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Scott and Becca definitely were. The last iterations, which Agnes was allegedly involved in, could be considered Pete and Celia and A.J. and Miranda at AMC 2.0. (Though AMC had apparently planned to subvert it according to Eric Nelsen by having A.J. come out as gay.) I think Cooper and Steffi on LOV can also be classed as one of Agnes' young love couples with Cooper as the well-meaning poor little rich boy like A.J., though I am pretty sure she had nothing to do with Cooper and Hannah who also fit the mold. Edited January 10, 2023 by Vee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 Bill Bell had characters/storylines with elements from literature, film, and biblical allusions, but then again that could apply to all writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) I do agree that Sadie and Carla had the salt of the earth long suffering mom and the striving for more daughter with a twist. I know Agnes Nixon also head wrote GL and don't think she used that template there. She did a reverse variation with Peggy Scott (Fletcher) as the put upon daughter of a striving for more mother (Maggie Scott) on GL She employed the put upon daughter and social climbing mom on AMC (Ann & Phoebe, Edna & Dottie, Opal & Jenny) and I believe she set up the Steffi Brewster/Deborah element on Loving Edited January 10, 2023 by Soaplovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Forever8 Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 She also used that template with Ada & Rachel: Another World Mona & Erica, All My Children Kate & Ava: Loving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 Ava is an interesting situation, because when Marland wrote the character, it also felt heavily influenced by the work he did on GL with Nola. But Nixon seemed to view the character as another Erica Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Planet Soap Posted January 10, 2023 Author Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Bill Bell: Miserable grand dame resents younger beautiful woman for taking her husband. Stephanie/Brooke B&B, Katherine/Jill Y&R. Edited January 10, 2023 by ironlion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted January 10, 2023 Members Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) @ironlionBill Bell also used vixen daughter all about the come up becomes involved with the upper class/wealthy man that her working class mother loves w/ Jill/Stuart/Liz and Brooke/Eric/Beth. Edited January 10, 2023 by kalbir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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