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I'm loyal to GH and I've found it the most entertaining soap over the past couple years, but it's time for some new writers. I know soaps have lulls, but they've been in one for ages. There is so little story movement and with that they keep introducing new characters, new secrets and new stories while none of the previous stories are moved forward. There should always be a rotation so there is at least one major story progressing while the others simmer. It's beyond time for them to give us a fresh vision here.

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On 7/12/2022 at 2:27 PM, slick jones said:
WHY ELIZABETH'S ILLNESS SHOULD NOT BE DID
 
First and foremost, neither Frank Valentini nor Ron Carlivati should ever be allowed to touch on the subject of DID. The horrendous Jessica/Tessica/Wes Messica One life to Live story which completely rewrote the character of Jessica's childhood-- that took place on screen- speaks volumes about their ineptitude.  Abby/Gabi on Days shows the same, as well as Kate /Connie "Fuckaneri" nightmare on GH. Then there was Fluke.  Viki/Niki on OLTL was the gold standard in 1995. but any of these examples are the gold standard of how NOT to do a DID storyline.
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If anything, the writers (not #firefrank) should dig into the obvious throughline of Elizabeth's life. Abandonment and Loss. Here is a character that has lost everyone she has ever been close to.
 
Jeff and Caroline Webber- dropped her on his step-mother's doorstep.
Sarah- left for California
Stephen Lars   in jail in Tennessee for the death of barely a character Maggie Wurth
Lucky   left her more than twice
Laura-  catatonic for years
Emily     dead
Jake kidnapped and presumed dead
Nikolas presumed dead and barely acknowledges her since his return
Franko-- dead
Jason     buried under rubble
 
And it goes on and on.  The character has been left behind and/or abandoned as a throughline to her character.
Please, not another round of DID.    Not in the INCAPABLE hands of #firefrank....

Anyone remembers Jessica at 17? Man, that was terrible. I'm like Ron was there when Erin was playing Jessica in her teens. She had more maturity and dignity than Bree's version of a 17-year-old Jessica Buchanan. 

I agree with your assessment of Elizabeth. I don't want a DID story with her either. Instead of focusing on what led her there emotionally. Plus, it would make a good hallmark for Becky's 25th next month. I hope Frank has cast Jeff and Carolyn. Stop teasing the audience of mentioning them and not delivering. I'm sure Frank can find a soap vet in their late 50's to early 70's to play her parents in the parking lot of Whole Foods or Ralphs. 

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25 minutes ago, Chris B said:

I'm loyal to GH and I've found it the most entertaining soap over the past couple years, but it's time for some new writers. I know soaps have lulls, but they've been in one for ages. There is so little story movement and with that they keep introducing new characters, new secrets and new stories while none of the previous stories are moved forward. There should always be a rotation so there is at least one major story progressing while the others simmer. It's beyond time for them to give us a fresh vision here.

While you know I love you for your love of Kari on M2m...I have to kindly disagree. I would say they have been meh since Harmony's rampage at the start of May. And I don't know why. And I mostly definitely don't like that RIGHT NOW they are shoving Finn's family down my throat in a story (or two) that is not their story. 

 

I don't know where the rotation go because they used to have it. But now? Not so muh. 

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I'm prepared for the pitchforks, but it's times like this when I miss Guza! I know he has his detractors, but at least there was always something happening. I miss his events.

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1 hour ago, SteelCity said:

I'm prepared for the pitchforks, but it's times like this when I miss Guza! I know he has his detractors, but at least there was always something happening. I miss his events.

Nah... I feel the same way sometimes too 😂

Guza pretty much drove a truck through the show, but at the same time, the storylines and the day to day writing was just so much better

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I thought that today's episode was good. It had a lot of focus on Trina, and I enjoyed it. I liked seeing Trina have a good support system around her, Portia, Diane, Joss, Ava and also Curtis and Marshall trying to help her as well. And I enjoyed the Rory/Spencer confrontation scenes. Spencer was making me laugh with the way he was looking and acting when he confronted Rory about kissing Trina in the park. He was so jealous, and I liked Rory calling him out too.

After Spencer told him he would answer to him if he hurt Trina, I liked that Rory told him he wasn't the one who hurt her. Rory got the last word today, but I think these more of these confrontations between them will happen and I'm looking forward to them.  I want to see a good romantic/soapy/angsty triangle for Trina. 

I do wonder if it will be revealed that Spencer is her alibi around the time the sex tape was released. Or if she will be exonerated some other way. I am interested in seeing how this trial plays out. It also looks like today/possibly tomorrow is Laura's exit story for GF's vacation, with her getting news about Lesley. It looks like Valentin may have arranged for that to happen so that Victor wouldn't kill her. Victor did try and have shot today, but Valentin saved her. 

They also mentioned Serena today as an excuse for why Scott was away, and Diane was taking over Trina's case. They said that Serena got arrested for activism (trying to prevent the slaughter of animals such as Dolphins in another territory) and Scott went away to try and help her legally. 

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Count me in as someone else who loves jealous Spencer. Sprina and Rorina are both viable pairings and I hope every beat of that is played.

I'm here for the Spencer/Rory rivalry and war. 

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2 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Nah... I feel the same way sometimes too 😂

Guza pretty much drove a truck through the show, but at the same time, the storylines and the day to day writing was just so much better

I eventually hated what he did, but his writing team told much stronger day to day episodes, even when the show was treading water between events (which I felt happened a lot).  I hate JFP too, but she knew how to give a scene the weight it needed and the show felt les static.  But I would never want them back unless we had someone there to reign Guza in.

I was just rewatching the clips of the Panic Room storyline, and although it was not my favorite event they did, it is still compelling to watch Liz discover Cary.  I can’t remember the last time I felt anything from FV ‘s GH.  I still think he is holding on to some backwards Frons ideals to not lean in to the soapy.  Just do it!

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33 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I can’t remember the last time I felt anything from FV ‘s GH.  I still think he is holding on to some backwards Frons ideals to not lean in to the soapy.  Just do it!

I've noticed that too. It does seem Frank holds back for some reason and gets bored really quickly and tells Chris and Dan to forget a certain storyline and start a new one (Ex. Curtis and Hat Dad)

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20 hours ago, SteelCity said:

I'm prepared for the pitchforks, but it's times like this when I miss Guza! I know he has his detractors, but at least there was always something happening. I miss his events.

I'd rather see Garin Wolf, who was never given the proper amount of time as head writer.

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3 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I'd rather see Garin Wolf, who was never given the proper amount of time as head writer.

I thought he was deadly dull as HW.

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30 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I thought he was deadly dull as HW.

Boring is the worst thing to be as soap writer, there's got to be a checks/balance system. Guza and someone like Sally Sussman might work as a combo because she does the good character driven stuff and he does the great plot/events.

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