2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I just realized that they're probably going to use this in order to bring Rafe and Nicole together 🤮

 

Probably.  I just think it was such a horrible, inconsiderate thing to do to Nicole.  He wasn't even going to dump her or tell her before he has sex with Sami?  I do think having Nicole sleep with 4 different men in like 8 months is a choice, but she was very upfront with EJ.  I honestly could not be less invested in EJ/Sami or Rafe/Nicole.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

 

Probably.  I just think it was such a horrible, inconsiderate thing to do to Nicole.  He wasn't even going to dump her or tell her before he has sex with Sami?  I do think having Nicole sleep with 4 different men in like 8 months is a choice, but she was very upfront with EJ.  I honestly could not be less invested in EJ/Sami or Rafe/Nicole.

The saving grace would be to have a EJ/Nicole/Rafe triangle and to break up Rafe and Ava for good. Turn Ava into a villain again, who plots and schemes against them, and maybe against Allie too if she dumps Tripp for Chanel.

1 hour ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Brandon Beemer sure looked good today! Lol, they really showed "Belle" getting on her knees and implied that she blew him. 

😂😂😂

38 minutes ago, carolineg said:

EJ forgiving Sami sure was quick.  Like that's it?  EJ was awful to Sami for months and just changes his mind in 3 scenes and what a crappy thing to do to Nicole.  This story sucks!

Ugh with MarDevil just running around town unnoticed.  I know the devil can shape shift, but they are showing it as Marlena and Marlena is just hanging out at the Town Square and the Police Station?  Jan/MarDevil do make an entertaining team though.

I laughed at Belle/Jan getting on her knees too.  

Does anyone know if JKJ is done as Phillip or is he just gone for now?  

It's also one thing for Doug/Julie to accept Ben, but to have him put the angel on top of the tree.  I can't........

It's my comedy hour. I just have to laugh at these awful stories if not I'd go insane.

I'm guessing the EJami stuff is so rushed because they know they only have Sweeney for a limited time. Those scenes were awful to the point where I almost FFed but I mean it's DF so I couldn't lol. 

34 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

The saving grace would be to have a EJ/Nicole/Rafe triangle and to break up Rafe and Ava for good. Turn Ava into a villain again, who plots and schemes against them, and maybe against Allie too if she dumps Tripp for Chanel.

I need Ava to be a villian again.  She is so boring.   She doesn't even interact with anyone she should.  I am not sure why she isn't more of a thorn in Kayla/Steve's side.  And didn't she once date RoboJohn?  Not that I am clamoring for Ava/John scenes, but I don't think they have ever shared a scene since she came back.

10 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I'm guessing the EJami stuff is so rushed because they know they only have Sweeney for a limited time. Those scenes were awful to the point where I almost FFed but I mean it's DF so I couldn't lol. 

There is rushed and there is completely doing a 180 on a marriage in 3 scenes that were about 5 min. total.  Awful.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I need Ava to be a villian again.  She is so boring.   She doesn't even interact with anyone she should.  I am not sure why she isn't more of a thorn in Kayla/Steve's side.  And didn't she once date RoboJohn?  Not that I am clamoring for Ava/John scenes, but I don't think they have ever shared a scene since she came back.

Her getting over Steve was supposed to be part of her redemption or something. But yeah, Ava didn't need to be completely redeemed into the Italian housewife that she's been written as. She could still be written as a villain, but not a complete psycho. The writing just needs to be a little more subtle.

And yeah, Ava and RoboJohn did date for a little while. But she left town when she thought she could face charges for Shawn Sr.'s death.

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Her getting over Steve was supposed to be part of her redemption or something. But yeah, Ava didn't need to be completely redeemed into the Italian housewife that she's been written as. She could still be written as a villain, but not a complete psycho. The writing just needs to be a little more subtle.

And yeah, Ava and RoboJohn did date for a little while. But she left town when she thought she could face charges for Shawn Sr.'s death.

Yeah, I guess it was time for her to move on from Steve, but I do think they should interact more.  Or Kayla/Ava should butt heads more or at least be snarky to one another.   TB is lovely and my favorite Carly, but there was no reason or plan when they brought her back.  Honestly, it might have been better if they brought her back as Taylor at this point.

Thanks, I thought Ava/John were at least sleeping together but it was so random and never spoken of again I thought I might be wrong.  The whole RoboJohn story started so well and went off the rails later on. 

I need Ava to be causing trouble all over town. TB is awesome but having her confined to Rafe's kitchen is a total waste. Her only rival is Gabi, which is pathetic. Gabi insulting her pasta is not compelling television, lol. Ava doesn't even get to have scenes with her son! And they barely acknowledge that Henry is her grandson. I'm still salty that they killed off Charlie. There was more story to tell there with the Tripp/Ava/Charlie dynamic. 

I'm also curious about the Philip situation. Is JKJ gone? Or is Philip going to be back on screen soon? Surely Philip leaving on a jet can't be the end of this story. 

1 hour ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I need Ava to be causing trouble all over town. TB is awesome but having her confined to Rafe's kitchen is a total waste. Her only rival is Gabi, which is pathetic. Gabi insulting her pasta is not compelling television, lol. Ava doesn't even get to have scenes with her son! And they barely acknowledge that Henry is her grandson. I'm still salty that they killed off Charlie. There was more story to tell there with the Tripp/Ava/Charlie dynamic. 

I'm also curious about the Philip situation. Is JKJ gone? Or is Philip going to be back on screen soon? Surely Philip leaving on a jet can't be the end of this story. 

I had the same question about JKJ, but I can't find the answer.  I want to say no, but it did seem like an ending of sorts.  At least for awhile.  I did a minor check on other boards and online and couldn't find anything definitive, so I assume he will be back.  Maybe it's a break like EM/Brady and GV/Eric and Sarah did a year or so ago.

Edited December 24, 20213 yr by carolineg

19 hours ago, KLN said:

I also think Billy Miller would make a good Phillip for what it's worth.

I really and truly believe the (soap) world would be better off if he WEREN'T cast on another show, but if he just HAD to be on THIS show, then I say bring him on as a recast for a reformed Jeremy Horton.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Maybe it's a break like EM/Brady and GV/Eric and Sarah did a year or so ago.

The difference is that the show made announcements in both these cases and I haven't seen anything about JKJ either so I assumed it was a temporary way to rest the character until whatever next twist.

Spoiler

Which I assume to be the theory suggested earlier by someone that the Devil made them - Philip, Lucas etc - do it.

Since RC wants to be inspired by Reilly, why not borrow the SIKE method of writing where everything you write is retroactively Melaswened into being not-really canon. 
Seems like something that is good for him: he gets to write the twists and turns and then gets a get-out-of-jail free card to not have to elaborate on the consequences.

 

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

It's my comedy hour. I just have to laugh at these awful stories if not I'd go insane.

Same.

DAYS has been such a mess for too long.  Ken Corday believes he's honoring his parents' legacy with this crap, but he isn't.  Not by a longshot.

If I were taking it over as HW and/or EP, I'd do the most radical thing ever: I'd phase out the Hortons (what's left of them, anyway), the Bradys, the DiMeras and everyone else; and I'd rebuild the show, "from the ground up," with new characters and families, in the hopes of getting back to family-centered, character-driven drama that isn't bogged down by decades of simply rotten storytelling.

I wouldn't go as far as getting rid of the Horton's, but when they did the time jump I did think it would've been an ideal time to say goodbye to a bunch of characters, try to straighten up the family trees to make them less confusing and properly reboot the show. Corday would never ever allow it though.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

Same.

DAYS has been such a mess for too long.  Ken Corday believes he's honoring his parents' legacy with this crap, but he isn't.  Not by a longshot.

If I were taking it over as HW and/or EP, I'd do the most radical thing ever: I'd phase out the Hortons (what's left of them, anyway), the Bradys, the DiMeras and everyone else; and I'd rebuild the show, "from the ground up," with new characters and families, in the hopes of getting back to family-centered, character-driven drama that isn't bogged down by decades of simply rotten storytelling.

That'd be a whole new show. Which, you know, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But that's cancelling Days and putting on a new show with the same name. 😄😄

I think they need to modernize what's already there, take advantage of the built in connections, re-brand some of the characters and pretend Salem fell through a time portal and the stuff from the past that doesn't fit 'today' was from a different timeline or something.

Or they could toss it all out with the bathwater. 😄😄

8 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Ava and RoboJohn did date for a little while. But she left town when she thought she could face charges for Shawn Sr.'s death.

Damn I forgot about Ava and RoboJohn.

Those weren't good days.

Ava would be better off going back to her mob roots after this, embracing her inner villain, and being paired up with Jake (who also has mob roots).