8 hours ago, Costello said:

OMG the sounds Hope is making during childbirth.

 

Made me hate her even more.

B&B was great in it's day but it's puzzling how this is still #2 in the ratings. The show is literally just having different couple combinations every living week and recycling romance fueled plots. IDK what Brad Bell is doing at this point but the ratings agree with him. 

3 hours ago, ironlion said:

B&B was great in it's day but it's puzzling how this is still #2 in the ratings. The show is literally just having different couple combinations every living week and recycling romance fueled plots. IDK what Brad Bell is doing at this point but the ratings agree with him. 

 

Actually, the 18-49 demo has BOLD, GH, and DAYS pretty much tied. Bell’s lame stories have caught up with him.

17 hours ago, crc said:

My memory of Phoebe isn't that great, though I can picture the actress that played her as a teen, but wasn't Phoebe kind of written like Hope?

And that's exactly why I believe she was killed off. Phoebe was Hope before Hope the perfect blonde princess while Steffy was the brunette screw up. Bell realized that Steffy battling her angelic blonde sister wouldn't be as exciting as Steffy battling Brooke's angelic blonde daughter and the rivalry was born...

1 hour ago, carsonfan said:

And that's exactly why I believe she was killed off. Phoebe was Hope before Hope the perfect blonde princess while Steffy was the brunette screw up. Bell realized that Steffy battling her angelic blonde sister wouldn't be as exciting as Steffy battling Brooke's angelic blonde daughter and the rivalry was born...

I’ve always disagreed with that, Phoebe and Steffy SHOULD have been rivals as well as sisters...in the days of Lorie and Leslie on Y&R and even Sami and Carrie on Days, a nice sibling rivalry where everyone admires “perfect” Phoebe over Steffy the screw up, would have been the better way to go.

So dumbass Liam let Hope talk for nearly a half hour before telling her their kid was dead?

 

Uh...ok.

12 hours ago, carsonfan said:

And that's exactly why I believe she was killed off. Phoebe was Hope before Hope the perfect blonde princess while Steffy was the brunette screw up. Bell realized that Steffy battling her angelic blonde sister wouldn't be as exciting as Steffy battling Brooke's angelic blonde daughter and the rivalry was born...

 

Honestly, I don't think Bell had planned that in advance because he never seems to plan any story beyond the next month.

 

Mackenzie Mauzy played Phoebe on contract from July 2006 to July 2008. She didn't renew her contract and stopped appearing the same month.
In June 2008, JMW was brought in as Steffy so she and Mauzy didn't really share much time together on-screen. Mauzy only returned for 5 episodes in December 2008 before Phoebe was killed off.

 

Hope was brought back as a contract role in January 2010. There's a whole year in between Phoebe's death and Hope's return, and Steffy didn't have a rival during that period. So assuming that Bell killed off Phoebe to replace her with Hope is a bit far-fetched.

Edited January 5, 20196 yr by Huntress

On 1/4/2019 at 11:23 PM, ranger1rg said:

So dumbass Liam let Hope talk for nearly a half hour before telling her their kid was dead?

 

Uh...ok.

That was aggravating to sit through.  Every single thing Liam does is annoying to the nth degree.

Whose dead baby did Dr. Wayne Brady give Hope to hold?

3 hours ago, Darn said:

Whose dead baby did Dr. Wayne Brady give Hope to hold?

 

Probably the girl he very briefly talked to the episode earlier. I think all he said to her was ''it's not your fault''.

1 hour ago, Markjeh said:

 

Probably the girl he very briefly talked to the episode earlier. I think all he said to her was ''it's not your fault''.

Yep, this is probably TBTB's way to make it more surprising to see the blackmarketing of the Hope's  baby in a week.