22 hours ago, frequentsoapfan said:

The most likable character on the show is Ted the assistant. 

 

 

And WTF has happened to the Jabbot sets? They look awful and so tiny now. 

On 12/4/2018 at 1:12 PM, YRfan23 said:

Kyle and Fen were sparring like they had a deep attraction to each other...just saying.

I thought it was ridiculous. Fighting over a girl they barely know. The conversation between Finn, Kyle and Mariah was so horrible. 

On 12/4/2018 at 11:36 AM, Costello said:

The Kyle/Fen/Mariah/Lola stuff was embarrassing. 

WTF was that? I thought early 20's mid 20's don't talk this way. It was just an awful/terrible scenes. 

Edited December 5, 20187 yr by Soapsuds

2 minutes ago, xtr said:

 

I hope she gets some decent storylines. Today she was making a pitch for one of Devon's clients to Rebecca Barlowe

 

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and tomorrow she will continue it and help Hamilton Winters make a deal with her. Devon will have more work for her to do, like getting her to arrange things for the artist.

 

I would like to see her work at Hamilton-Winters and create a nice career for herself in addition to getting a love interest. Also, it looks like those pictures originally came from Zach Tinker's Instagram story. They were hanging out together in his dressing room. Loren does have a video of them interacting together in her story, and Zach has a short video of them as well. They are cute. 

 

I think it's given she's gonna work at HWG. I'm sure she will be ambitious and have to fight Devon for everything there like Hilary did. There really isn't much else as far as story goes. I do like how the writers use the Rebecca character to bring story to several businesses in her short little arc. 

 

I'm curious to see the story for Ana and Fen other than Devon and/or Nate playing gate keeper to her vagina? 

16 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I think it's given she's gonna work at HWG. I'm sure she will be ambitious and have to fight Devon for everything there like Hilary did. There really isn't much else as far as story goes. I do like how the writers use the Rebecca character to bring story to several businesses in her short little arc. 

 

I'm curious to see the story for Ana and Fen other than Devon and/or Nate playing gate keeper 

 

 

I don't think she will struggle with him the way Hilary did. IMO, she's not a whole lot like Hilary. I do believe there is a potential storyline to build on for Ana and Fen as they both try and work and make it in their respective positions in the music industry. She could try and help him make it as an artist and they can deal with the things (including possible issues) that came along with that. I do think that a possible Kyle/Lola/Fen triangle may play out while this is happening. Maybe Ana/Fen will be friends first and/or work together professionally first before anything happens between them.

 

I think it may largely depend on how much time/storyline they want to give to Fen and Ana developing their careers in the music industry. 

 

Also, I hope Nate doesn't try and interfere in her life. I think he needs to be practicing medicine and get his own love interest. I could see Devon being a protective big brother, but hopefully not in an OTT way.

Edited December 5, 20187 yr by xtr

2 hours ago, xtr said:

 

 

I don't think she will struggle with him the way Hilary did. IMO, she's not a whole lot like Hilary. I do believe there is a potential storyline to build on for Ana and Fen as they both try and work and make it in their respective positions in the music industry. She could try and help him make it as an artist and they can deal with the things (including possible issues) that came along with that. I do think that a possible Kyle/Lola/Fen triangle may play out while this is happening. Maybe Ana/Fen will be friends first and/or work together professionally first before anything happens between them.

 

I think it may largely depend on how much time/storyline they want to give to Fen and Ana developing their careers in the music industry. 

 

Also, I hope Nate doesn't try and interfere in her life. I think he needs to be practicing medicine and get his own love interest. I could see Devon being a protective big brother, but hopefully not in an OTT way.

 

We've seen the tapes for Ana casting call if you recall. They were posted here. 

 

I didn't say that Ana was like Hilary. A  person having to fight family for a place in the family company is an age old story. One almost every Newman and Abbot on the show has had at one point. It's easy angst to write. 

 

Let's list shall we, 

 

Newmans which had it: Vikki, Adam, Noah briefly

 

Abbots: jack, Ashley, Billy, Kyle

 

 

Edited December 6, 20187 yr by ajsp35801

I don't think Ana needs to immediately be in a relationship. I hate how that's the go to for all characters. I enjoy strong single characters just as much as those in relationships. I don't think everyone needs to date someone. Some of my favorite relationships on soaps are friendships between characters as opposed to romantic pairings.

2 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I don't think Ana needs to immediately be in a relationship. I hate how that's the go to for all characters. I enjoy strong single characters just as much as those in relationships. I don't think everyone needs to date someone. Some of my favorite relationships on soaps are friendships between characters as opposed to romantic pairings.

 

Soaps just don't work like that nowadays, sadly. KSJ said once, "`Without a romance you are dead in the water".  I didn't agree at the time but I've come to realize that it's the absolute truth. Folks that TPTB care about are rarely ever single. 

9 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Soaps just don't work like that nowadays, sadly. KSJ said once, "`Without a romance you are dead in the water".  I didn't agree at the time but I've come to realize that it's the absolute truth. Folks that TPTB care about are rarely ever single. 

I agree sadly, although the stories that captured my attention at all this year were the sibling or interfamily rivalries (Jack/Ashley, Victoria/Ashley, Victoria/Abby, even Hilary/Lily to a small extent), which weren’t romantic rivalries. People have goals in life other than who they want to bang! Unfortunately, the show didn’t want or really know how to develop those in something sustainable. They always revert back to love triangles like Lola/Kyle/Summer/Philly/Shick/Shey/Mia.

Edited December 6, 20187 yr by Costello

13 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Soaps just don't work like that nowadays, sadly. KSJ said once, "`Without a romance you are dead in the water".  I didn't agree at the time but I've come to realize that it's the absolute truth. Folks that TPTB care about are rarely ever single. 

 

Yeah, it does seem like characters who don't eventually get romances are backburned/pushed to the side. And/or used poorly. Like what is happening with Nate. Nate's storyline has been reduced to him constantly nagging Devon. Even Cane has mostly been reduced to that since Lily has been moved to another prison. There are a few characters like Ashley and even Sharon who can be single, (though she still has multiple men vying for her attention) and still get adequate airtime and storyline. Though, I don't think most of them will very fare well if they aren't eventually placed in a romance.

 

I do want to see Ana get a love interest, but I also enjoy her bond with Devon and want to see that continue to be showcased. As well as seeing storylines involving things like her working, growing in her career, and interacting with other characters.

Edited December 6, 20187 yr by xtr

Yes, romance is at the core of soap stories, but it is useful to develop character's other relationships and work issues etc.

 

The thing with these characters trying to develop music careers under Devon's guidance is that he has billions,right?

 

Wouldn't he be able to get top producers, arrange publicity etc ?

 

That bothers me, esp them working out of GC...

6 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Yes, romance is at the core of soap stories, but it is useful to develop character's other relationships and work issues etc.

 

The thing with these characters trying to develop music careers under Devon's guidance is that he has billions,right?

 

Wouldn't he be able to get top producers, arrange publicity etc ?

 

That bothers me, esp them working out of GC...

 

Yeah, I believe he has access to those things and we will see them addressing that a bit more once he meets and probably signs Fen. In today's episode he was trying to get one of the best people to work with one of his artists Renee with Ana's help. Fen also said he felt that working with Devon would be top notch, after Kyle and Mariah asked him why he chose to pursue a music career, in GC instead of places like LA, New York, or Nashville. It sounded like Fen felt like he would have a really good advantage working with Devon. Even over places with strong music scenes and where a lot of people build their music careers.

Edited December 6, 20187 yr by xtr

34 minutes ago, Costello said:

I agree sadly, although the stories that captured my attention at all this year were the sibling or interfamily rivalries (Jack/Ashley, Victoria/Ashley, Victoria/Abby, even Hilary/Lily to a small extent), which weren’t romantic rivalries. People have goals in life other than who they want to bang! Unfortunately, the show didn’t want or really know how to develop those in something sustainable. They always revert back to love triangles like Lola/Kyle/Summer/Philly/Shick/Shey/Mia.

 

When you list it like that... SMH

The connection just makes no sense story wise. 

12 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

When you list it like that... SMH

The connection just makes no sense story wise. 

And I forgot to add Arturo/Abby on the Mia end and what looks like Fen/Ana on the other. It’s all pretty sad.

2 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

KSJ said once, "`Without a romance you are dead in the water".  I didn't agree at the time but I've come to realize that it's the absolute truth. Folks that TPTB care about are rarely ever single. 

 

Romance stories are especially important for characters of color who are already systemically disadvantaged in terms of agency and airtime.

Now Victor has disappeared? I swear someone at CBS/Sony is either trying to tank the show or send EB to the retirement home.

Jesus christ, they HAVE to give Nate something to do other than wait around Devon's apartment. This is ridiculous. I did enjoy Devon's therapy session though.