38 minutes ago, FrenchFan said:

And Kate Linder is still on contract ??

I don't think she has a classic contract. Her "guarantee" seems to be for 25 episodes a year or so. It's probably only because of her actor's guild association that she is technically on contract. Despite bringing back Chloe under MAB, Esther has been irrelevant ever since Jill became tied to Katherine's hip in 2004 or so.

16 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Thank you for that last part. I was about to ask if he leaves who would be the next longest running cast member.

 

This is beginning to take on a morbid air, like those world's oldest living humans lists...who's next?

4 hours ago, SoapDope said:

I say CBS has sent down an ultimatum to Mal to kill the show so they can fill the times with more talk shows or reality TV. 

 

I was speculating about this for awhile now but I had some rebuttal posts on this very same messageboard.  

It's an idea that cannot be dismissed so easily.

8 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

His Twitter has only shown me he's an entitled [!@#$%^&*]  and the new latino family clearly has him pressed since since he was liking and retweeting crap about the latinos taking over. Anyone who conducted themselves like him openly bashing their job on social media would and should expect to be fired.

now that we know his character's a detective I guess it's safe to say Jordi Vilasuso will be his replacement... lol

Not a big surprise...the big question is who is the next vet to get fired?

Edited September 11, 20187 yr by Soapsuds

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

Not a big surprise...the big question is who is the next vet to get fired?

 

This.  I mean, they've been doing nothing with the character and Davidson must have sense this or else, he was truly in denial.  The important question is, where is this all headed?  I mean, ATWT's journey to cancellation took damn near a decade.

12 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

This.  I mean, they've been doing nothing with the character and Davidson must have sense this or else, he was truly in denial.  The important question is, where is this all headed?  I mean, ATWT's journey to cancellation took damn near a decade.

ATWT still had its vets at the end....Bob, Kim, Barbara, Lucinda, Lily(recast though), Susan. Emily and Craig.  Y&R is phasing out legacy characters/families for new ones. The ratings will diminish with the new changes. Those still watching aren't newbies and they(Y&R) aren't going to get new viewers with the introduction of some unknown Latino family. The ratings will erode eventually and even as bad as B&B is ...I can see it overtaking Y&R as the #1 soap in about two years. 

I'll give Y&R 3 years on air......

20 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

This.  I mean, they've been doing nothing with the character and Davidson must have sense this or else, he was truly in denial.  The important question is, where is this all headed?  I mean, ATWT's journey to cancellation took damn near a decade.

Yes and I'd say that Y&R is at the beginning of the end.  I doubt it will take a decade, but I guess it could hang on that long.  If I had to guess I'd give it 7 years.

 

Look at how fast the end came for AMC on ABC. It seemed like it had 5 years left at least when they changed coasts and then the hammer fell.

22 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

ATWT still had its vets at the end....Bob, Kim, Barbara, Lucinda, Lily(recast though), Susan. Emily and Craig.  Y&R is phasing out legacy characters/families for new ones. The ratings will diminish with the new changes. Those still watching aren't newbies and they(Y&R) aren't going to get new viewers with the introduction of some unknown Latino family. The ratings will erode eventually and even as bad as B&B is ...I can see it overtaking Y&R as the #1 soap in about two years. 

I'll give Y&R 3 years on air......

 

The Craig character might as well as have been a brand new character, I don't count him but I see your overall point.

17 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Yes and I'd say that Y&R is at the beginning of the end.  I doubt it will take a decade, but I guess it could hang on that long.  If I had to guess I'd give it 7 years.

 

Look at how fast the end came for AMC on ABC. It seemed like it had 5 years left at least when they changed coasts and then the hammer fell.

 

I don't think it will be a decade either.  I referenced the 10 years because people can be fooled into believing that ratings and awards are some type of definite buffer against cancellation.  It is not. ATWT was winning awards right up to the ax being dropped.

1 hour ago, frequentsoapfan said:

His Twitter has only shown me he's an entitled [!@#$%^&*]  and the new latino family clearly has him pressed since since he was liking and retweeting crap about the latinos taking over. Anyone who conducted themselves like him openly bashing their job on social media would and should expect to be fired.

 

Not a fan of Doug either.  that fact doesn't make this any less of a bad move by CBS. 

I'm not surprised. Its pretty obvious Mal is cleaning house and trying to transition the show to the next generation of characters. KSJ is probably next with Peter B and Eric Braeden right behind(thats why Nate is the new magical negro, Ray is a cop, they've given Billy control of Jabot & Nick Dark Horse). I don't think any of this is going to work long term though.

29 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

I'm not surprised. Its pretty obvious Mal is cleaning house and trying to transition the show to the next generation of characters. KSJ is probably next with Peter B and Eric Braeden right behind(thats why Nate is the new magical negro, Ray is a cop, they've given Billy control of Jabot & Nick Dark Horse). I don't think any of this is going to work long term though.

+1. Wouldn’t surprise me if Nikki goes down for killing JT as well or something. But I think they are looking to lean down the show, especially with a tough renewal coming.

Edited September 12, 20187 yr by Faulkner

Just typed in Mal Young in the search bar for twitter and oy!  Some of those soap fans sound crazed-- "bring back Muhney, Teriah, Teriah Teriah, Niktor! We need more loving scenes from Lane, we need more family moments with Lane!"  

Don't these folks know he probably has them on mute?  Tweet whining constantly won't do anything, just stop watching already. Plunging ratings get his attention more than angry tweets from the same cluster of fans.

Edited September 12, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

38 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

The Craig character might as well as have been a brand new character, I don't count him but I see your overall point.

 

I don't think it will be a decade either.  I referenced the 10 years because people can be fooled into believing that ratings and awards are some type of definite buffer against cancellation.  It is not. ATWT was winning awards right up to the ax being dropped.

Oh, I thought you meant GL's cancellation could be foreseen 10 years out, which I agree with, at least in hindsight.  Certainly by the time they moved to Peapack (?) it was clear it wouldn't last.  So sad. I don't wish any soap cancelled.  As I've said before where there is life there is hope. Once it's over, that's it forever.

33 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Not a fan of Doug either.  that fact doesn't make this any less of a bad move by CBS. 

Same.

Reading some stuff on other sites it seems that Doug has been put on recurring so not technically fired.

 

I guess that at the end of a contract cycle (in Dougs case would it be 26 weeks? that used to be the deal for vets) the contact can be voided.

 

He has not received any notice of future appearances.

 

So Y&R could have intended to use him  .How far in advance does a recurring player get notice they are scheduled to tape?

 

There was talk that Christian LeBlanc was made recurring but never any official word on that.