December 7, 20169 yr Member 40 minutes ago, DeeeDee said: Ashley and Billy are/were close but she was trying to be diplomatic which was very in character. However Billy & Traci have always been really close so it was (again) very in character that she was his main defender. I remember john and billy lived in new york for awhile. In fact, Traci was the ine to convince Billy back in the late 90s to give Jill another chance...even though she and jill werent close.
December 7, 20169 yr Member It wasn't Traci who convinced Billy to give Jill a second chance (she did fill the maternal space that Jill would've had he & John stayed in GC). That was mainly John (with help from Jack & Ashley). Traci did advise Billy not be so mean to John & Billy was a big help to her with Colleen.
December 7, 20169 yr Member 20 hours ago, Juliajms said: ^ First of all, I never said I was ok with how Hillary treats Mariah, so don't assume. Second, someone pissing you off does not give you the right to put your hands on them. +1 No, I don't think you should put your hands on your employer, but I also don't think you should be dehumanizing and cruel to your employee. Id've been more than happy with Mariah cutting Hillary down to size verbally, she more than earned it. But pushing her was dumb. 1 hour ago, rlj said: Good start Sally, glad she put a stop to Sharon trying to get rights t a child she kidnap, it made no sense! Yeah I'm very happy about that. Dumb dumb dumb.
December 7, 20169 yr Member 2 hours ago, YRBB said: It felt more like Y&R than it has in forever. They overdid it a bit with the John Abbott stuff but that's a smallest-violin-in-the-world kind of complain. They book-ended the show with melancholic versions of Nadia's Theme, a wonderful touch. The Abbotts felt real. Like mentioned, Jess Walton (Jill finally sounded like herself) and Beth Maitland were phenomenal. I got more of a sense of Ashley than I have in a long time. Even Billy and Victoria were a little touching. And Victoria had a good start to a Victor/Victoria scene. Very, very promising. Holy [!@#$%^&*] I can't wait to watch it.
December 7, 20169 yr Author Member 7 minutes ago, GMac said: Holy [!@#$%^&*] I can't wait to watch it. Let us know what you think! I am excited for the next episode for the first time in a while.
December 7, 20169 yr Member Yeah I can't wait to watch tonight's episode that airs at 4:30 here in Canada. I'm SO curious to see how she's going to write for some of these newer characters like Chelsea, Mariah and nuPhyllis etc. Maybe she can add some depth to them. Another thing I enjoyed is how SS put emphasis on Nick being a struggling single parent to Christian and questioning his abilities as a father without his wife who is now dead. This is something Pratt would have never acknowledged. Christian would have just remained as another set prop who served no meaning. This should be a big deal in Nicks life right now. Edited December 7, 20169 yr by ryanc Spacing between sentences
December 7, 20169 yr Member As someone who is very familiar with Y&R, but not always a day-to-day watcher, the show instantly felt like Y&R to me when I watched today. From Jill, to Traci to Ashley to Nick to Victoria .... it really was a breath of fresh air. The opening with the Abbots having breakfast was well done and I actually got a bit emotional once they started showing the flashback of John. So that alone right there says they're doing something right. Everything that was said and done just felt right and made sense. Jill reminding Billy that he was John Abbott's son was good. But I hated hearing Jill is going on a trip. Already?
December 7, 20169 yr Author Member 11 minutes ago, ryanc said: I'm SO curious to see how she's going to write for some of these newer characters like Chelsea, Mariah and nuPhyllis etc. Maybe she can add some depth to them. IA about Chelsea -- she really needs to be developed -- but I don't think depth is an issue with Mariah and Phyllis. Mariah is an interesting, fairly complex character on her own (one of a handful in recent years, if that many!) and Phyllis has to be written in character again. What they both really need is good stories. 3 minutes ago, KMan101 said: But I hated hearing Jill is going on a trip. Already? Yes! But they did make a point of saying it was only a couple of days and Jill said on the phone she would be in and out from the hotel, so I'm hopeful.
December 7, 20169 yr Member 1 minute ago, YRBB said: IA about Chelsea -- she really needs to be developed -- but I don't think depth is an issue with Mariah and Phyllis. Mariah is an interesting, fairly complex character on her own (one of a handful in recent years, if that many!) and Phyllis has to be written in character again. What they both really need is good stories. Yes! But they did make a point of saying it was only a couple of days and Jill said on the phone she would be in and out from the hotel, so I'm hopeful. Your right. I didn't word that properly, I meant it'll be interesting to see how she writes for those characters overall. Chelsea absolutely needs more depth though. Phyllis needs to have her edge back, her begging at Jacks feet isn't cutting it for me and needs to end ASAP
December 7, 20169 yr Member Chelsea has coasted for such a long time. She was defined through Adam. I also think the potential pairing with Nick is nothing but snoozeville. I'm looking forward to Sally (and Kay's) take on the other characters. It's a bit sad that the first episode was all white (and I say this as one of the whitest people around) though but I'm squabbling here .... it was a great start. I think Sally should include people like Neil and Paul in her "important staples" but it is what it is. And I do think we'll see Jill but it just struck me how it was mentioned she'd be away. I'm hopeful too. I'm very much ready to see Lauren, and written IN CHARACTER. Edited December 7, 20169 yr by KMan101
December 7, 20169 yr Member Beth Maitland today........ Jess Walton gets honorable mention!! That's the Jill I remember.
December 7, 20169 yr Author Member On a production standpoint, people really need to stop hanging out outside in the freezing Wisconsin winter! Edited December 7, 20169 yr by YRBB
December 7, 20169 yr Member I was hoping when Jill was telling Billy he was an ABBOTT that she would have mentioned again that Ashley wasn't a true Abbott.
December 7, 20169 yr Member Today's first SSM episode of Y&R was EXCELLENT!!!!!! BRAVO to Beth Maitland and Jess Walton for their AWESOME performances in today's episode! It's a brand new day in GC! Edited December 7, 20169 yr by CBRVA83
December 7, 20169 yr Member Do they plan on using Beth Maitland regularly (like Jess Walton?) or is this just a visit? They need to keep her recurring. She looked amazing today too. So much better than they usually make her up. Phelps probably wanted her dowdy and matronly.
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