Aren't you all forgetting the rumored

Lily-as-Mariah doppleganger?

It's just a dreadful show, IMO. But there are a few performers I can enjoy and watch. I mostly watch out of grotesque curiosity, to see JFP and her second-rate GH crew try to assimilate and terraform a proud Bell institution into their vague Guza-GH ripoff. Of course the real decimation came before them, under MAB, etc., but now they're sort of picking off what's left. These writers are nothing without a show and a HW they're familiar with, and their work and JFP's is bland and barely ever competent - droning as hell. GH may be terrible and/or laughable at the moment, but it's not boring the way this is. Now they're literally reheating a terrible subplot (Lily's double) that even Jill and Guza abandoned.

What was left?

I hear people say the music, but that's it, generally.

I guess the sets, although sadly, most of that was gone too.

Y&R is dull as hell, but GH is too. One is a boring shell staring into space. The other is a boring, fifth-rate drag queen staring into space. Not a big difference in the long run.

I don't know how much was left. I just think the show is a zombie trying to pose as some sort of Guza's GH ripoff. Who cares about two dayplayer mobsters? Honestly?

I think GH is just wretched at the moment and there's plenty to condemn on it, but it doesn't put me to sleep the way this does.

I don't know how much was left. I just think the show is a zombie trying to pose as some sort of Guza's GH ripoff. Who cares about two dayplayer mobsters? Honestly?

I think GH is just wretched at the moment and there's plenty to condemn on it, but it doesn't put me to sleep the way this does.

I don't really care about either one of them, but sitting through Britt's scenes in recent weeks made me more sleepy than just about anything has in my life.

I don't want to defend Y&R, because it's not worth defending, but that little bit at the end of the above clip, just the little moment where you realize that "Cassie" is working for Victor, has more of a soap kick than anything I've seen Ron Carlivati do since 2008.

Edited February 18, 201411 yr by DRW50

I thought people called the Cassie thing a while ago though. It didn't surprise me, is all I'm saying. I don't see the point of the story. Of any story on the show, really.

I thought people called the Cassie thing a while ago though. It didn't surprise me, is all I'm saying. I don't see the point of the story. Of any story on the show, really.

It's not so much about a surprise, just the presentation. It's the look on her face when the reveal comes. It's one of those little moments that I enjoy on soaps.

It's not great stuff - it's all crap, really - but it reminds me a little of something I used to see on soaps, and that was unique to them, once upon a time.

It makes more sense than having Jerry Douglas come back as some drunk doppleganger who vanishes after two months.

I think I'm safe in saying just about anything makes more sense than Wallingford (or Wallington, or whatever the feck that man's name was).

THANK YOU! I cannot believe that I am seeing people wanking over a doppleganger storyline! Maria did it and got nothing but criticizm, Jill does it and she's the best thing since sliced bread? I just can't. At least when Maria did it, you could watch the show and still know it was Y&R, even if the storyline sucked. Now we get crappy writing and the look and sound of second rate ABC soap.

Jill has some goodwill towards her from some of the fans because she "forced" the depatures of MS, and BM . I didn't include MM because that situation was made by Sony. It's the same way Ron earned some goodwill when he "forced" the departure of SB and Jason was written off the show.

It's not so much about a surprise, just the presentation. It's the look on her face when the reveal comes. It's one of those little moments that I enjoy on soaps.

It's not great stuff - it's all crap, really - but it reminds me a little of something I used to see on soaps, and that was unique to them, once upon a time.

THIS.

THANK YOU! I cannot believe that I am seeing people wanking over a doppleganger storyline! Maria did it and got nothing but criticizm, Jill does it and she's the best thing since sliced bread? I just can't. At least when Maria did it, you could watch the show and still know it was Y&R, even if the storyline sucked. Now we get crappy writing and the look and sound of second rate ABC soap.

Second rate ABC soap? Get OUT of here.

It happens to be the truth.

It happens to be the truth.

+1

I think what Nate objected to was if there was an implication that all ABC soaps are second rate. I might be mistaken though.

Aren't you all forgetting the rumored

Lily-as-Mariah doppleganger?

It's just a dreadful show, IMO. But there are a few performers I can enjoy and watch. I mostly watch out of grotesque curiosity, to see JFP and her second-rate GH crew try to assimilate and terraform a proud Bell institution into their vague Guza-GH ripoff. Of course the real decimation came before them, under MAB, etc., but now they're sort of picking off what's left. These writers are nothing without a show and a HW they're familiar with, and their work and JFP's is bland and barely ever competent - droning as hell. GH may be terrible and/or laughable at the moment, but it's not boring the way this is. Now they're literally reheating a terrible subplot (Lily's double) that even Jill and Guza abandoned.

Why do you still watch soaps? All you do is bitch and complain about them. If you don't like them then do not watch. You say GH is horrible (which it is) so why do you still watch?

I think what Nate objected to was if there was an implication that all ABC soaps are second rate. I might be mistaken though.

That's what I assumed he meant. If not, sorry.

This Liz/Britt slaps look so real.

They didn't onscreen.

Vee's pretty good at presenting many sides of GH, good and bad. I tend to be more negative. I keep meaning to just shut up about the show, but it's not easy.