John the question if they can prove it. U seem biased here because u just love PP. Well it doesn't matter what entity I love its called the proof of evidence in a case and PP has very little on their side. Tell me each one of their claims in their complaint that can be proven in a court of law against ABC.Its a completely frilivious lawsuit with a company trying to pay ZERO on an investment they chose to get involved with. PP wants to pay nothing for this project I am sorry itsnot ABCs fault u botched the project with bad writing, its not ABCs fault u had a shady investor funding it and not wanting to fund it anymore, its not ABC's fault u went over on the amount of money. I am hearing stories that many of the crew for AMC/OLTL still haven't been paid for work done in the last weeks. I am sure these employees will start suing them for compensation. I heard checks bounced all over the place as they could not even afford to pay people for work done. PAY YOUR FREAKING EMPLOYEES FOR SERVICES RENDERED. Again John if ABC knew they owed big as I said they would be settling out of court. Its like for example u are sued and u know u are in the wrong no company wants to spend money dragging this out in court hurjng their reputation unless they know its frivilous lawsuit. ABC hasn't really spoken on their side yet in this leading me to believe they are staying quiet for court. The OLTL 3 being killed off claim is disputable because they brought Natalie back alive they could have rewritten all that stuff. Ill say this just because ABC has huge money, big time lawyers and Disney doesn't mean they also have to fund an entire failed project because of a certain companys bad faults. OWN UP TO YOUR FREAKING MISTAKES AND BAD CHOICES and take responsibility. I have my issues with ABC but honestly I hope they prevail here and get the rights back and maybe one day they might use them again or use characters from those shows for a new project.

Once again U dont know your facts. PP didnt bring Natalie back to Life on OLTL cause GH never killed that character. They Killed Hope, Cole & Tea's baby. So Natalie being on PP's OLTL doesnt negate PP's claim that ABC screwed with the OLTLers that were loaned to GH

*rubs temples*

I hate that we're back to bickering about this stupid [!@#$%^&*] lawsuit.

Sadly we don't have any new episodes to discuss. We could talk about where we think PP's storylines could have gone, but we're kind of fresh out of topics here.

Um, Eric Nelsen (AJ) got married, so congrats to him.

That's about all I've got. Sorry marceline.

I told Carl to use the threads for his observations about the shows as he finishes them, but he's taking his time.

Sadly we don't have any new episodes to discuss. We could talk about where we think PP's storylines could have gone, but we're kind of fresh out of topics here.

Um, Eric Nelsen (AJ) got married, so congrats to him.

That's about all I've got. Sorry marceline.

I know, I know. It's just that this could go on for years and we've all picked our side. It's just the same conversation over and over again.

I guess if I'm honest, it makes me sad. The shows were good and IMO were a nice step in the evolution of the genre. I hate that it's the lawsuit that everyone is going to remember and not the amazing work done by the cast and crew. It's kind of like the situation with Debbi Morgan and the Emmys. I completely understand her viewpoint but she did some damn fine work and she deserves to be recognized for that.

There were several key vets that were just as hurt as Debbi at OLTL when the first effort fell through, and they totally surprised me by coming back this year. I'm not saying that to diminish her pain or categorize it, because it's very keenly felt by me and I wish I could do something for her - what I mean is that I have a small ember of hope that wonders if someone more sane doesn't remount these productions in the next year or two, and manages to get Debbi back on board despite how she feels now, just as those OLTLers did this year.

I agree they were evolution for the genre, which is just what I was rambling about in the OLTL thread an hour or so ago.

I can't believe the two people on this board who can barely grasp the particulars of basic human interaction are debating legalese.

I can.

I told Carl to use the threads for his observations about the shows as he finishes them, but he's taking his time.

I just got up to the episode where Colby goes to visit Cassandra at the hospital.

I tend to agree with you that at this point AMC was in stronger shape than OLTL.

Still annoyed they're likely gone for good.

I thought Brooke Newton was fantastic in that episode. She shocked a lot of us and she just kept improving, IMO.

I think OLTL recovered from its meandering by the end. I hope you'll keep sharing your thoughts with us in the two threads. I'd give a lot to see the shows reconstituted while keeping the same production teams.

I just got up to the episode where Colby goes to visit Cassandra at the hospital.

That was the turning point for me on Colby and Newton. I was just about to write them both off as a drag queen caricature then Brooke Newton showed us Colby's heart and everything changed. I was breathless watching those scenes. Damn, I'm going to re-watch.

ETA: I just realized that's the same episode where Dixie wrote Billy Clyde her letter. I think that was one of the best episodes of the series.

Edited December 5, 201312 yr by marceline

Um, Eric Nelsen (AJ) got married, so congrats to him.

To a woman?

To a woman?

To a woman?

She looks like Grandma Boring. LOL

She looks like Grandma Boring. LOL

And they are a perfect match! Yikes! Who is that guy?

Edited December 6, 201312 yr by ChitHappens