Although thats not as insane as someon on TVline saying the following:

I don’t care about Agnes Nixon’s heart breaking. Her greed, stupidy and stubbornness robbed both AMC and OLTL of proper burials on ABC. And characters from both could have been brought over to GH.

Comment by EJ – November 11, 2013 06:14 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

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• Her GREED? You do realize that PP leased the shows from ABC right? ABC had the rights, ABC is making the money by leasing the shows.

  Comment by Katie – November 11, 2013 06:54 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

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  • Get your facts straight before you take Agnes’s name in vein.

    Comment by Megyn – November 11, 2013 08:59 PM PST REPLY TO THIS POST

The shows weren't unsuccessful on Hulu and Itunes, just not successful enough. Same with OWN.

If ABC were truly looking at AMC/OLTL, either as a hybrid hour show or two half-hour shows as a replacement for Katie, then they would have just made a deal with PP, IMO.

PP had already done most of the hard work with hiring cast, writers, crew and staff, finding a reasonable priced production studio and re-habbing it, building the sets, etc.

This is the biggest reason I don't see the shows ever being on ABC again. If they aren't willing to make a deal, and shoulder some of the costs when pieces are in place, it doesn't seem from common sense business practices, that they would start all over again.

Yeah, if ABC had any interest in keeping the shows on the air, they would've helped PP pay for them online.

Cady McClain shared a link.

3 minutes ago

If you aren't hearing anything about the ending of AMC as we know it, it's really out of shock. I am also trying to allow PP to have the moment to contact all the actors and explain what is and has been going on with AMC, and then gather themselves to try and explain it all to you, the fans.

I can confirm what Debbie Morgan has shared already, that we were given assurances that we would be continuing with the series and then were very recently contacted and told that, with great regret, AMC won't be going back online this year, or in this particular incarnation. Certainly hope springs eternal that we will yet again, spring from the dead.

I do feel confident in sharing my opinion that PP and all "the powers that be" involved in making AMC and OLTL truly loved the shows and did their utmost to make continuing them possible. The premiere in NYC was one of the most exciting moments I have had the privilege to be a part of in my career. I am not privy to the behind the scenes decisions, however. Like you, I can only experience those choices second hand and guess at the reasons why this is happening now.

Instead of going into the "What Went Wrong" question, I think I'd rather focus on the gratitude I feel for having been asked to continue with the show. If I am still wanted as an actor on daytime, it is all because of YOU, the FANS.

I am so very grateful for your support. To have had the opportunity to be a part of an innovative experience that strived to keep American soaps alive via a new medium, to be a part of the continuing fabric of your lives through daytime storytelling, and to be able to work with dear friends who I've known all my life was a very special experience for which I have you to thank.

So THANK YOU for all the cheering, love, and support, daytime family. You've been AWESOME.

http://www.welovesoaps.net/2013/11/all-my-children-not-returning.html

I love Cady!

I agree with this. IMO the smartest thing to do would have been to run with that, which was supposedly floated by some affiliates at some point, but ABC won't do that - at least it appears they won't - and that to me signifies that for all the happy talk by the new regime, ABCD's "commitment" to GH and soaps in general in 2013 only goes so far as to the point that they can develop truly viable lower-cost programming. The soap bloggers can be as charmed by Vickie Dummer as they want to be, and I'm sure she's a very nice woman who may have genuine affection for GH and the ABC soaps of the past, unlike Brian Frons. But she's also a businesswoman and it's clear to me that ABC's bottom line for the future does not include soaps. Otherwise they had steps they could've taken here.

I don't take this as a failure for soaps, though. I consider it a management issue. As marceline said, this isn't a typical case of a network making an executive decision based on ratings or a show's budget. AMC and OLTL and their casts and crews got onto the track and were running. They were let down by poor upper management and a lack of funding. That's all. And that to me is not failure for anyone but the upper management. Soaps are as viable for the future as they ever were and as I've always said they were, IMO. It's simply a question of having the tools in place.

And all that said, do I really think OLTL or AMC are done for good this time? No. I thought they were in 2012, at least for five or ten years, then a few weeks later OLTL hit GH. Then they went on Hulu. I think we'll see them - some pieces of these shows, anyway - again, in some way, in some format. Sooner than later, IMO. They'll be back. I wish ABCD would pony up the dough to continue the new shows in their current configurations, but I can't have everything.

ICAM! I thought the online version of AMC was terrific, easily the best this show had been in a decade, and it gave me hope that when people who care about the soaps in are charge the genre is still viable. I also think with PP holding the rights they will eventually find a way to bring these shows back again once they've secured the proper funding.

It won't matter if they don't have competent upper management. AFAIC the teams at the two shows themselves weren't really the problem - those people worked their hearts out, and even with OLTL's many hasty last-minute rewrites and hiccups they still got a decent show on. It was the higher management at the company.

We'll see what happens. I don't think we've heard the last of these shows, at least not in some shape or form, however short-term. I used to think it would be at least five or ten years for a re-appraisal, then we had the GH merger, then the PP revivals. I'd be more willing to write it off for a decade if these shows hadn't been good, hadn't worked content-wise or production-wise. But AMC was fantastic and OLTL was either decent or great on any given day, and they both looked better than GH, frankly. So now I think all bets are off. I don't think they'll ever be back on the network daily, five days a week, year-long, or even necessarily on TV at all. Or running as themselves, as they have this year. But I think we'll see those places and people again soon enough.

Edited November 12, 201312 yr by Vee

I'll be interested to hear what the actors think after things have calmed down a bit (assuming the soap press ever lets that happen). One of the things I find notable so far is that actors have been outspoken all along about believing that PP wanted these projects to succeed. They clearly felt supported and like there was a real commitment. That obviously wasn't the case with ABC. It took a little while after cancellation but slowly the actors began to tell just how awful ABC treated them and these shows. They were like battered spouses finally getting to testify about what life was like.

It seems a lot of people have forgotten but ABC ground these shows and these people into dust without so much as breaking stride. Which is why I am astounded by the people who are frothing at the mouth for the chance to drag these folks back to hell. It's truly amazing to me how people who can remember every one of Erica Kane's weddings can't remember how badly ABC shafted these shows just a few years ago and are now clapping like seals for ABC to get the rights back.

My wish list is that PP gets to keep the rights, they obtain new funding contingent on major changes to management and they work out a deal with Netflix and Hulu for drops of 30-40 one-hour episode seasons every couple of months in telanovela style arcs that tape in NYC not Stamford (that's just my own pro-NYC bias coming into play.) Not that I think it will happen. I'm just putting it out into the universe to counter the other stuff.

Dream those big city dreams, marceline.

I can't knock 'em though, because I feel the same. But I suspect anything like that would have to involve a new agreement with ABC or Disney at least in terms of possible financing. I don't think Ted Turner is going to fall out of the sky for this.

Edited November 12, 201312 yr by Vee

Cancel Katie.... 30 min eps for OLTL and AMC.... or bring some OLTL and AMC characters to GH which some of you may hate

No characters on GH. GH is way too crowded

No characters on GH. GH is way too crowded

sounds like a good time for a cataclysmic event to kill a bunch of people off

Cancel Katie.... 30 min eps for OLTL and AMC.... or bring some OLTL and AMC characters to GH which some of you may hate

Why why why do people want these shows back on ABC, seriously

I shouldn't speak for every viewer who might feel this way, but I believe it has less to do with wanting them back on ABC and more to do with wanting ABC to admit they made a mistake in canceling them in the first place.

I'll be interested to hear what the actors think after things have calmed down a bit (assuming the soap press ever lets that happen). One of the things I find notable so far is that actors have been outspoken all along about believing that PP wanted these projects to succeed. They clearly felt supported and like there was a real commitment. That obviously wasn't the case with ABC. It took a little while after cancellation but slowly the actors began to tell just how awful ABC treated them and these shows. They were like battered spouses finally getting to testify about what life was like.

It seems a lot of people have forgotten but ABC ground these shows and these people into dust without so much as breaking stride. Which is why I am astounded by the people who are frothing at the mouth for the chance to drag these folks back to hell. It's truly amazing to me how people who can remember every one of Erica Kane's weddings can't remember how badly ABC shafted these shows just a few years ago and are now clapping like seals for ABC to get the rights back.

Yes! I am amazed at how many people on facebook and other sites are losing their minds over this and talking about organizing campaigns to get the show back on ABC. I don't understand that at all.

I shouldn't speak for every viewer who might feel this way, but I believe it has less to do with wanting them back on ABC and more to do with wanting ABC to admit they made a mistake in canceling them in the first place.

ABCD would cancel GH before they would ever admit that they made a mistake in canceling AMC and OLTL.

I hope that the actors, directors, writers and crews are able to find new projects and employment in other venues of the entertainment industry. They can not continue to keep holding onto something that isn't getting the financial support it needs to continue to thrive, develop and move on into this century.

Edited November 12, 201312 yr by difficultdiva

sounds like a good time for a cataclysmic event to kill a bunch of people off

I'm still waiting for that

Cancel Katie.... 30 min eps for OLTL and AMC.... or bring some OLTL and AMC characters to GH which some of you may hate

That's not going to happen and not in a million years would I want Ron to ruin both shows so he can continue his own personal fan-fiction

sounds like a good time for a cataclysmic event to kill a bunch of people off

Such as a hurricane followed by an outbreak of Lassa Fever.