GH: Discussion for the Month of February

[DRW50]

That makes the Alan/Bobbie story even more unfortunate.

[MissLlanviewPA]

Yes, ma'am. My birthday's February 28th .

And I like them both. Admittedly, I haven't watched much of either, but I do like them both. I could always change my mind.

And we still have T&B.

[MissLlanviewPA]

Oh my Al. My Holdens.

Sorry, momentary sadness. Won't happen again.

Ew, you're right. Barf.

[Cheap21]

I found the clip of Livvie making her wish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ryGg0VQtHM

and the series finale conclusion to the aftermath of that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiR30nQmhwE

[allmc2008]

Quick Question:

Was GH ever known for having Mulch-Layered complex characters? I know they were often colorful but did any of them like Tracy/Alan/Monica have rich backgrounds that were often explored? Basically, did Agnes Nixon's influence ever hit GH??

[Mr. Vixen]

Bobbie Spencer grew up with an abusive, alcoholic father who beat her entire family, eventually killing her mother. She was then sent to live with her aunt and wound up a teen prostitute in order to help pay the bills. At 16 she got pregnant but was told her baby died. She finally broke away from it all and became a nurse. She blew into town as a vixen attempting to get Laura away from Scotty, whom Bobbie truly loved. But Scotty always wanted Laura and just used Bobbie for sex. Bobbie did horrible things to Laura, but it was all rooted in her deep need for love.

Eventually she found love and got married. It was respectable, and a happily ever after...Until her husband started beating her, sending her spiraling back to the darkness of her childhood. The abuse grew so bad that after a particularly grueling beating, Bobbie fell down the stairs. The injuries resulted in the necessity of a hysterectomy, therefore taking away Bobbie's ability to have children: the one thing she wanted most.

Evebtually Bobbie found love again with the wonderful and suave Jake Meyer. But Bobbie's obsession over having a child drove him away and the marriage crumbled, leaving Bobbie alone once more.

As time passed Bobbie finally found true love with Dr. Tony Jones. But it wasn't all roses from there. Her desperation for a child forced her to buy one on the black market. However she and Tony were eventually given custody of Lucas. Everything seemed perfect.

Cue Damian Smith. A bad boy, Damian caught Bobbie's eye and they began flirting. Little did she know that he was in cahoots with her enemy Lucy Coe, in a bet that they should ruin Bobbie and Tony's marriage. Just as Bobbie is caught kissing Damian, Tony and Bobbie learn that their daughter has been in an accident. She is left brain dead. Bobbie and Tony were forced to make the most difficult decision of their lives: to give their sick niece BJ's heart.

Bobbie and Tony persevered and in 1996, befriended ambitious student nurse Carly Roberts. All was well until Bobbie walked in on Carly with Tony in bed. This was made even worse when Bobbie learned that Carly was the baby she believed had died. Carly had come to town, thinking Bobbie never wanted her, and deliberately ruined her life.

Bobbie and Carly eventually made amends but her marriage to Tony was through. She found love again in 1998. Until he left her at the alter.

During this time Bobbie transformed from scheming vixen to kind, loving and beloved matriarch. Until everyone forgot she existed .

I would definitely call that an extremely layered character with a very rich past.

So the answer to your question is yes.

[quartermainefan]

Grant Putnam was a fairly complex character. He has been trained his whole life to be an anti-american spy and then wound up falling in love with an american woman and idolizing his american mentor, who eventually he was assigned to kill. Granted, this was not written in the era of HBO dramas where it would have been even more complex, but as a set up it was pretty well constructed. Olivia Jerome was another well thought out character being the daughter of a mob family that did not recognize the value of women as assets to the family business. This eventually helped drive her to the brink I think. Cesar Faison was complex enough that he wound up accidentally killing his own mother. Helena Cassadine, cartoonish as she is, was very complex having an almost incestuous love of one son and an equally incestuous vibe with the other son she despised. She "killed" her own son, it doesn't get more multi-layered than that.

Of course, most of these characters came at a time when plot oriented good vs evil stories reigned, but it was the rich characters that made the stories good. In contrast you had more realistic baddies like Manny and Lorenzo, but they were far less well designed than many badguys that had come before.

[Cheap21]

Dang, a simple yes would suffice! I dont think he was asking for Bobbie's life story....lol

[Mr. Vixen]

Just providing a little context

[MissLlanviewPA]

I read somewhere that Carly mentioned in an episode a year or two ago that Bobbie had moved to Seattle and lives near Lucas there.

[Mr. Vixen]

She said she was in Seattle but didnt say she moved there. Also, they've paged her at the hospital since then.

[Eric83]

I wanted Britt to rip Sabrina to shreds. I hate her annoying, whiny ass.

They are already laying the groundwork for the audience to think TJ= Bad, Rafe= Good

[Cheap21]

[R Sinclair]

I really don't get these strong reactions. Seriously. Both of them cancel each other out, in my view. They're both mentally unstable people who dropped out of the sky having a rabid crush on a man they barely knew. They're both immature. They're both insecure. They're both self-serving. They're both inconsiderate of Patrick's grief. I really don't get how people are on either side when they're both horribly drawn characters who are only serving as plot points and filler for Jason Thompson. This story has not been about Patrick, his grief, his recovery from his drug dependency, anything. It's all been about "Who do you want to win? Britt or Sabrina?" with Patrick looking like an idiot in the middle.

That's only because Tequan Richmond's off filming the new Star Trek mov-- huh? They've already used that excuse for knocking a black penis off the canvas, you say? My bad!

[carolineg]

I really wanted to hate this vampire story and the PC nonsense blending into GH, but I don't. I find it strangely interesting. Unlike the OLTLers, who I found were very awkwardly introduced, this PC stuff works for me. I will just chalk it up to Lucy and Kevin. They make everything better. I wonder how Scott will fit into this since he is the only character to be on GH in any regular capacity since PC ended. Anyway, the show was good this week. My only complaint is Connie's greasy hair. Why is it like that? I even liked some of the Britt and Sabrina stuff and didn't hate every single second of Connie (her throwing Sonny under the bus in front of Michael was cool).