And we do. And we have apologized for what you faced in your own experience. But if you want us to apologize for our honest (and not entirely groundless) reactions to these scenes in particular, I'm sorry, but that probably will not happen.

ITA I'm not apologizing for this story being crap to me. Those gifs make her look like the devil is posessing her.

And we do. And we have apologized for what you faced in your own experience. But if you want us to apologize for our honest (and not entirely groundless) reactions to these scenes in particular, I'm sorry, but that probably will not happen.

Point taken but I think you can be constructive without making fun of it. That is what bothers me most. That its being mocked here by posters.

What Im saying think some here are not grasping, is how Kate recounted & acted out her rape Thursday was EXACTLY how the rape occured to me. I didnt see it as a mockery. I saw it as reliving my rape & having posters here laughing at it, saying its OTT is False. That is exactly how it went down with me. Kate's recount was real & authentic. I just wish some here would understand that. That scene was not funny, mockery or joke. That scene was more real, in your face to me than some rapes ive seen over the years including binks on AMC. (Which was not shown) or Laura's on Gh (Also not shown)

I think Kelly,Frank & Ron captured 100 % what I was feeling & going thru that night. I give them major props for showing what the victim went thru

I'm truly sorry for what you went through, and I'm not trying to discount your feelings about the scenes. I'm sure they felt real to you. The point I was trying to make was that GH failed to get the rest of the audience, those who (thankfully) haven't experienced this in real life, to have a similar reaction to yours. Whether you've experienced rape in real life or not should not matter. You should never be even remotely able to see rape, or any depiction of rape, as a joke. GH failed at this, and I didn't think that was (or should be) possible.

I'm truly sorry for what you went through, and I'm not trying to discount your feelings about the scenes. I'm sure they felt real to you. The point I was trying to make was that GH failed to get the rest of the audience, those who (thankfully) haven't experienced this in real life, to have a similar reaction to yours. Whether you've experienced rape in real life or not should not matter. You should never be even remotely able to see rape, or any depiction of rape, as a joke. GH failed at this, and I didn't think that was (or should be) possible.

I empathize a lot with John. But this isn't the only board that has reacted to this the way many here have. The question I'd ask is why with rape being so serious a crime wasn't the show able to make the entire audience feel, because it shouldn't be a debate.

Exactly! It's not the story that is getting these reactions from people. It's how it's presented and acted. And that means it's a failure, at least in my opinion. Rape is such a horrific crime that it really should be impossible to get this reaction, but somehow GH has managed to do that. I can't imagine anyone had this reaction watching Margo's rape on ATWT, or Bianca's on AMC, Eden's on Santa Barbara etc.

Pretty much. People aren't exactly laughing at Sam's ordeal but then again Kelly Monaco isn't doing any OTT theatrics and comedy faces. The way the Kate storyline is being handled is different and KS's portrayal as been hilariously disastrous throughout

Frankly, I'm still mad over how this rape has been retconned into Kate's history in order to explain her DID. Not only has nothing about Kate's past behavior ever suggested a history of sexual abuse and mental illness, IMO, but to suggest that an isolated trauma is the cause of all this is (to me) an insult to real rape survivors. Not every rape victim has had to create an alter ego in order to cope with memories of the attack -- in fact, I can't think of one story concerning DID that suggests such a cause -- but most DID victims share a history of repeated sexual abuse that has its origins in the victim's early childhood.

People aren't exactly laughing at Sam's ordeal but then again Kelly Monaco isn't doing any OTT theatrics and comedy faces.

Nah, everyone's too distracted by The Baby Switch You Never Saw Coming.

Point taken but I think you can be constructive without making fun of it. That is what bothers me most. That its being mocked here by posters.

Your opinion (and subtle moral judgment) is duly noted.

I'm still mocking the hell out of this horribly written, acted, produced "story." Fantasy vs. Reality.

The problem with taking this story seriously is we have no reason to believe this will even be the ultimate story. Can you imagine how an OLTL fan felt if they identified with Jessica's rape by Ford, and then, months later, learned that Jessica was apparently in full control, wanted to have sex with Ford, and that he asked her a dozen or more times if she really wanted to do this?

That's like Phyllis George asking that rape victim and her rapist for a hug on national television.

The problem with taking this story seriously is we have no reason to believe this will even be the ultimate story. Can you imagine how an OLTL fan felt if they identified with Jessica's rape by Ford, and then, months later, learned that Jessica was apparently in full control, wanted to have sex with Ford, and that he asked her a dozen or more times if she really wanted to do this?

Haven't they pretty much already dropped Johnny raping Kate? They used that plot strictly to create conflict with Sonny and Johnny. Johnny is back with Carly like nothing happened.

Apparently so, yes. It's so out of character for Carly to take Johnny back weeks after she calls him a rapist. It's all about turning viewers on, apparently. We seem to be stuck in Victorian-era writing.

We seem to be stuck in Victorian-era writing.

As someone who is a fan of Charles Dickens and George Eliot, I take great offense to that remark.

Hell No no one was laughing at rape stories from the past! This Cartooni junk should be mocked!

Tell the story of a woman (Kate) taking the man who took advantage of her sexually (Johnny) to court and suing him after trying to press criminal charges. Wouldn't this be easy to write for a person who practiced law at one point. Its a social issue, right?

Lazy hacks write one terribly bad nonstory and repeat it endlessly!

Hell No no one was laughing at rape stories from the past! This Cartooni junk should be mocked!

Tell the story of a woman (Kate) taking the man who took advantage of her sexually (Johnny) to court and suing him after trying to press criminal charges. Wouldn't this be easy to write for a person who practiced law at one point. Its a social issue, right?

Lazy hacks write one terribly bad nonstory and repeat it endlessly!

Because it's not about that. It's about bringing Sonny's new enemy to town and if I am to speculate, give he and McBain as the heroes of the show a common enemy.