Yup. I agree. It will unfortunately crash and ABC will feel "justified" in cancelling it.

Chris, this nicely sums up why Ron sucks so much. I honestly don't know why ABC brought him to GH, other than an attempt to increase the soap's "hoopla." If ABC/GH wanted to get somebody good, they should have gone with Lorraine Broderick. Aside from the finale (which was ruined because of Prospect Park interference), she gave AMC a great last month. (This was an incredible turnaround in quality, given that AMC had previously been unwatchable for quite some time.)

FV was hired first and we all know he wasn't hired for his magical production style but strictly for budget reasons. He probably brought RC on. Maybe RC can write better to FVs budget model who knows. And it keeps the whiney soap press off their backs since they all kiss their asses.

Virginia, it's quite possible that you're correct and I'm wrong on this matter. If one spends a lot of time on soap message boards and soap internet sites (like I do), it is easy to forget just how little power soap viewers have.

If soap viewers had any power, their shows wouldn't have been canceled.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the diehards went on with their protest at the ABC upfronts?

If soap viewers had any power, their shows wouldn't have been canceled.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the diehards went on with their protest at the ABC upfronts?

Soap viewers have no power bc there aren't much left with soap viewers. If this was the 1980s... The soap viewers woul be in control, but with such a extremely small fan base, they can't do much anymore.

And Days is screwed with the lose of GH.

Edited May 18, 201213 yr by gtru1981

If soap viewers had any power, their shows wouldn't have been canceled.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the diehards went on with their protest at the ABC upfronts?

Marc Berman of tvmediainsights.com mentioned in his podcast there was about 10 people protesting at the ABC upfronts.

Pathetic.

ABC can suck an egg.

Once GH is gone I am done with soaps for good. Y&R is a crapfest..and Days and B&B don't appeal to me at all.

The Link doesent work anymore. Why is anyone giving credence to an opinion piece from a macomb mi newspaper

Also ABC is giving back the 3pm EST slot to the affiliates and 95% of those have decided to carry Katie. The 2pm EST slot is still ABC's to program. Its their choice of what goes there, not the affilaties. If the Affiliates had this much power AMC & OLTL would still be on. I cant believe people believe an opinion piece which is no longer on the site

The Link doesent work anymore. Why is anyone giving credence to an opinion piece from a macomb mi newspaper

http://www.macombdaily.com/article/20120517/ENTERTAINMENT01/120519502/is-general-hospital-renewal-a-scam-

Here is the correct Link

http://www.macombdai...renewal-a-scam-

Now thats all but RUMOR. So BIG grain of salt & the reporter even says this could all be made up by someone on a message board. So I wouldnt take it too seriously.

Edited May 18, 201213 yr by John

GH is dead only reason they haven't been canceled is because The Revolution bombed. Let's not fool ourselves.

Edited May 18, 201213 yr by Eric83

I highly doubt that GH is going to end in September. (If that was the case, ABC would have announced GMA Afternoon as the permanent replacement for The Revolution.) It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Katie is scared shitless about being demonized as the person who killed GH; the last thing she wants is for the "save the [ABC] soaps" crowd to attempt to derail her show.

Given all the s#it ABC went through with the AMC/OLTL cancellations, I suspect that the plug won't be pulled on GH until it starts reaching 1.3s/1.4s (like what occurred with Passions and GL).

I'm not convinced that ABC went through that much with the AMC/OLTL cancellations, other than a lot of online noise. There were barely 30 people protesting at the upfronts just weeks after the dual cancellations were announced and they only lost one relatively minor advertiser, who only stayed away for three weeks. The biggest problem ABC had was trying to sell the ill-conceived and unready Revolution.

If General Hospital were in better shape or even on an upswing, I might understand the reticence to be blamed for cancelling it but it's in a downward spiral and a lot of its own fans are sick of it in it's current state.

It doesn't matter that its an in house production there are still contracts that have to be renewed every year that goes for every show on the network.

There are contracts with the cast and crew but not with the show. The show is wholly owned by the network, so they have no contract with it thus no contract renewal. ABC can cancel it whenever they want, given that they do it at a time when they can legally void their cast and crew contracts.

Forgive my cynicism, but I honestly can't see Katie Couric shaking in her Ferragamos over a scant group of soap fans. Not only because she's got bigger fish to fry as far as naysayers are concerned, but the whole AMC/OLTL backlash was hardly as earth-shattering as it's been made out to be via the soap press/soap internet.

ITA.

The Link doesent work anymore. Why is anyone giving credence to an opinion piece from a macomb mi newspaper

The Macomb Daily shouldn't be dismissed completely out of hand. It's a highly reputable paper covering the Detroit metro area. WXYZ, Detroit's ABC affiliate, is a major bellweather affiliate for ABC. If things do well on WXYZ, they tend to do well nationally. I wouldn't be surprised if WXYZ is one of the few non-ABC owned & operated affiliates in on the ground floor of talks about this.

Also ABC is giving back the 3pm EST slot to the affiliates and 95% of those have decided to carry Katie. The 2pm EST slot is still ABC's to program. Its their choice of what goes there, not the affilaties. If the Affiliates had this much power AMC & OLTL would still be on. I cant believe people believe an opinion piece which is no longer on the site.

Affiliates aren't programming the 2PM slot but don't sell affiliates short, they have a HUGE say is how the networks program. If large numbers of affiliates don't like something, it doesn't last. If affiliates love something for whatever reason, it'll last longer than it might otherwise.

I'm curious why you think affiliates wouldn't cancel AMC & OLTL. The Revolution failed but The Talk is holding close to AMC numbers and gives local news more opportunities for segment tie-ins. GMAITA could give the affiliates even more opportunities to tie the mid-day lineup to their noon and 5PM newscasts. Locals love to tie their newscasts to network programming. There are few cross-promotional opportunities with soaps.

GH is dead only reason they haven't been canceled is because The Revolution bombed. Let's not fool ourselves.

Precisely. GH won't be canceled until ABC knows how GMAITA is received. Their fear of another Revolution debacle is the only thing holding them back.

I'm curious why you think affiliates wouldn't cancel AMC & OLTL. The Revolution failed but The Talk is holding close to AMC numbers and gives local news more opportunities for segment tie-ins. GMAITA could give the affiliates even more opportunities to tie the mid-day lineup to their noon and 5PM newscasts. Locals love to tie their newscasts to network programming. There are few cross-promotional opportunities with soaps.

Please forgive me for my rudeness, but am I correct in assuming that you were referring to The Chew instead of The Talk? (I'm not 100% sure, which is why I am posing this question; perhaps CBS affliiates are doing tie-ins with The Talk.)

Precisely. GH won't be canceled until ABC knows how GMAITA is received. Their fear of another Revolution debacle is the only thing holding them back.

I appreciate this insight.

Edited May 19, 201213 yr by Max

http://pasadena.langhamhotels.com/abc_052112.htm

It going down here

Hearing that abc will poll affiliates

do they want gh or gma in the afternoon in september?

early june abc will issue something offical

gh could be wrapping in september and if so abnc want blood on their affiliates hands