Members P.J. Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Hells NO....at least not in his time at ATWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glatwt Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 im sorry to say this but sheffer & goutman gave ATWT one last shot in the arm! it became a emmy writing/ best show winner for a couple yrs. plus every hot performer was jumping ship to the show. not saying it was the best but it at least gave some kind of enjoyment watching it daily and once sheffer departed everything went downhill imo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Aside from Cady McClain, every hot performer who joined was abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 its not about whether there will be fan backlash or not. I dont think they'd have cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juppiter Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 LOL. No, actually. Everything he did well on ATWT were stories he inherited from Laiman. Anything he actually started was uneven at best and a disaster at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Whether or not he wrote a cohesive story is a separate issue from the publicity he garnered for ATWT. I don't deny at all that he gave ATWT "one last shot in the arm"---but there's a difference between being a publicity whore and mastering sound writing. Winning the emmys were nice----but that's as much about politics and chance. I'm saying Sheffer never plotted a solid story that made a lick of sense. Ones that started out well (or at least somewhat well-plotted like Babs/James kidnapping the girls) devolved into "mysterious blue drinks", rapid aging and Dr.FunkyGlasses with all the menace of a Scooby Doo villian. His answer to everything was camp, some-pull-it-out-of-his-ass villian and a bury-it-and-forget-it mentality. Look at the way he copped out and made pre-teen Will Rose's killer. Or Les/Julia. Or how many times he brought back some "fan favorite" to completely trash their character to engineer a nonsensical story (he brought back Damian from the dead and made him a monk for cryin' out loud. A MONK.). No writer is perfect. But with Sheffer, you never got any sense of growth. He kept repeating mistakes. If anything, it was the cast that got too little credit for making the material seem fresher than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfave06 Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 I think Sheffer's first two years were great, but he did say that somewhere along the line, it turned into Goutman and the network interfering in everything he came up with. I think his best work is at ATWT compared to DAYS and Y&R. However, I could see where longtime fans would lose interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Susan Hunter Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 How is Sam, Alexis' daughter? Who is her father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Some lame plot where they never got a dna test and used some old school records( someone said it was a yearbook) to help determine that Alexis missed ex amount of school days that year and gave birth at some clinic. An Alexis fan can tell you. No one knows who Sam's father is but it's likely a cousin of Alexis' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juppiter Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 That was Jessica D. Klein IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfave06 Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Actually I couldn't find this interview when I looked for it, so maybe he never said that. I could have sworn I read it somewhere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tune_in_tomorrow Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Does it really matter? With Valentini and Carlivati in charge, won't it be a different man every time the moon is full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 28, 2012 Members Share Posted April 28, 2012 Since Sheffer has told the same stories on DAYS and Y&R that he told at ATWT, I don't know how much interference he faced. Klein had him studying to be a priest, but I think he was a monk when he came back in 2001 (or pretending to be). I guess it's still better than the writing for him later on though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted April 29, 2012 Members Share Posted April 29, 2012 Well, I guess I was a little confused on the timeline and who "revealed" Damian was actually alive. But it was definitely Hogan who had him in a kidnapping round-robin after the boat explosion where Holden and Luke were presumed dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted April 29, 2012 Members Share Posted April 29, 2012 With the first Holden fake funeral. Little did I know that the only way to get one of my favorite characters (Seth) back was to "kill" Holden every decade or so. Overall I never got the impression that Sheffer had a lot of interest or respect in the history of past characters. Not that he was the only one, but still, the Craig mess, or the image of Julie as the long-suffering mother battling years of illness, just did not work for me. I guess I should be grateful it wasn't much worse, as apparently Sheffer casually rewrote one of the show's longtime popular leading men (Mike Horton) as a child beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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