I was inspired to do this by the UO thread for TV shows at TWOP.

Like here, there is a separate one at TWOP for soaps as well, but I had no idea if there was one on this board for the rest of TV (game shows, sitcoms, reality shows, news, etc.), so I thought I'd start one here. Granted, TWOP is a site completely dedicated to all types of television, so I don't know if picking out UOs here would be as easy, but I think it's worth a shot.

Everything's on the table. Past or present, channels or shows of every genre (except the daytime soaps, obviously).

The UO thread on soaps has only a little bit on primetime soaps, so I guess you can include them here, too. Your call.

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

I just cannot get over this Seinfeld hate. The show was genius and often hilarious.

Re: Late night. NBC era David Letterman I loved but it is different from Johnny to be sure. Now all the shows are about celebs coming on to make the host look good. Johnny brought celebs on and made them look good, and I loved the idea of stars sticking around the whole show and having occasional comments to each other. Johnny thought Letterman was great, and Letterman did have bits which I think owe inspiration to people like Steve Allen.

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by quartermainefan

Actually, even with Barker at the helm, TPIR in the 2000s was inferior to what it was in the 70s and 80s. Do you remember the God-awful "Hollywood Mural" turntable (in 2002-03)? What about all those rotating models? (There were no longer permenant beauties because of all the lawsuits against Barker.) During the last couple of years, I also saw way too many senior moments on Bob's part, especially when he would get very impatient with contestants. (I seem to recall him occasionally forgetting some rules to pricing games as well.)

It's my opinion, and I acknowledge that it's unpopular. Bob was 83 when he retired, so of course there'd be more senior moments. IMO, they didn't stop the show from being flawless but added to its charm. The rotating models format didn't hurt the show, IMO (did it change the atmosphere? Yes. But did it hurt it? In my opinion, no.) The sets really didn't bother me much, either.

I just cannot get over this Seinfeld hate. The show was genius and often hilarious

I see it called "genius" or "brilliant" alot and never understood what was genius or brilliant about a group of characters who main did nothing but whine & complain.

Kramer was the only good part of that show.

It's my opinion, and I acknowledge that it's unpopular. Bob was 83 when he retired, so of course there'd be more senior moments. IMO, they didn't stop the show from being flawless but added to its charm. The rotating models format didn't hurt the show, IMO (did it change the atmosphere? Yes. But did it hurt it? In my opinion, no.) The sets really didn't bother me much, either.

Even though we disagree, I certainly prefer Barker in his later years to Carey anyday. However--and this is an unpopular opinion--I think that Drew has become a decent host over the past year or two. (Before that, the Carey era was completely unwatchable. I am shocked that the show remained #1 on network daytime television during that time.)

Another unpopular opinion that I hold is that despite how boring and poorly put together The Revolution was, I think that "Katie" (based on the way the show has so far been marketed) seems to be an even more unnecesary program (as well as a show that is lacking even further in freshness).

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by Max

Another unpopular opinion that I hold is that despite how boring and poorly put together The Revolution was, I think that "Katie" (based on the way the show has so far been marketed) seems to be an even more unnecesary program (as well as a show that is lacking even further in freshness).

That's totally not an UO, that seems to be the way alot of people feel

I see it called "genius" or "brilliant" alot and never understood what was genius or brilliant about a group of characters who main did nothing but whine & complain.

Kramer was the only good part of that show.

Well, for starters it was often very funny. That's a lot more than most sitcoms, but then the subjects they dealt with were these real things you don't often think about but where there was funny stuff to be found. I loved when they brought on Keith Hernandez and did this whole JFK riff on "The Second Spitter" complete with home movie reenactment, and then Kramer when he found Merv Griffin's old set in the garbage decided to run a talk show in his living room. And George's father was a brilliant character from the manzier to festvus to "do you want a piece of me!" and Jerry's father and the politics of senior retirement communities and how he was run out of office like Nixon. Kramer getting a job, the briss and Kramer objecting to circumcision, the parents insisting "you gotta come see the baby" when in fact the kid was the ugliest baby ever..there is just a ton of great stuff on the show. Sometimes I laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes. Just the idea of Festivus as a holiday still brings a smile to my face. It begins with the airing of grievances and ends with feats of stength as you are forced to wrestle. What other sitcom was ever so absurd?

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by quartermainefan

Every single reality POS should be cancelled, never to return to American television again.

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by Roman

Friends

F- Ross and Rachel. I shipped Joey and Rachel

I didnt think Joey's spinoff was that bad. Its too bad it got cancelled before any Friends people could crossover

Joey and Rachel was just wrong on all kinds of levels. Mostly because it was just so out of character.

I didn't think "Joey" was that bad but the character just didn't work without the rest of the gang to play off of.

King of the HIll was a better show than The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, Bob's Burgers,

Joey and Rachel was just wrong on all kinds of levels. Mostly because it was just so out of character.

I didn't think "Joey" was that bad but the character just didn't work without the rest of the gang to play off of.

out of character for who and why?

out of character for who and why?

Maybe not "out of character" per-say, but it just felt wrong. Joey was supposed to be one of Ross' best friends, and the Rachel/Ross history was SUCH an integral part of the show, that it just felt gross. Not to mention, they just didn't work. Joey wasn't sophisticated enough to date someone like Rachel.

That 70's Show would have been fine without Ashton Kutcher (despite all the buzz he got). Topher Grace's exit was the one that really hurt the show.

No matter how talented Neil Patrick Harris may be, Barney Stinson should have stayed a supporting character.

I wish ESPN would quite showing dunks, especially in their top 10.

Heroes would have done better if the writers had the cajones to kill off Sylar.

Looking back on it now, I wish Corey and Topanga would have been like normal teenagers and dated around instead of being meant to be.

The only reason why Sarah Jessica Parker is hated is because she has the audacity to look her age. If she'd have nipped and tucked her face into oblivion like the broads on Desperate Housewives, then I highly doubt that she'd elicit as much vitriol as she does.

I didnt realize she was hated

Speaking of that and SaTC, I hated Samantha as a lesbian. I tuned in each week to watch her suck d-ck, not eat coochie!

Oh and I HATED Carrie and Big. Carrie and Aiden all the way.

For the most part, Miranda was an unlikeable cow

I actually loved Charlotte and Trey. I wish they had lasted

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by Cheap21