Members AllMyDaysatGH Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 AGREED! Especially Charm School. Nothing can beat the first season. That was GOOD soap. "The Picture Incident" had me on the edge of my seat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 I just cannot get over this Seinfeld hate. The show was genius and often hilarious. Re: Late night. NBC era David Letterman I loved but it is different from Johnny to be sure. Now all the shows are about celebs coming on to make the host look good. Johnny brought celebs on and made them look good, and I loved the idea of stars sticking around the whole show and having occasional comments to each other. Johnny thought Letterman was great, and Letterman did have bits which I think owe inspiration to people like Steve Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 It's my opinion, and I acknowledge that it's unpopular. Bob was 83 when he retired, so of course there'd be more senior moments. IMO, they didn't stop the show from being flawless but added to its charm. The rotating models format didn't hurt the show, IMO (did it change the atmosphere? Yes. But did it hurt it? In my opinion, no.) The sets really didn't bother me much, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 I see it called "genius" or "brilliant" alot and never understood what was genius or brilliant about a group of characters who main did nothing but whine & complain. Kramer was the only good part of that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Max Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Even though we disagree, I certainly prefer Barker in his later years to Carey anyday. However--and this is an unpopular opinion--I think that Drew has become a decent host over the past year or two. (Before that, the Carey era was completely unwatchable. I am shocked that the show remained #1 on network daytime television during that time.) Another unpopular opinion that I hold is that despite how boring and poorly put together The Revolution was, I think that "Katie" (based on the way the show has so far been marketed) seems to be an even more unnecesary program (as well as a show that is lacking even further in freshness). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 That's totally not an UO, that seems to be the way alot of people feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Well, for starters it was often very funny. That's a lot more than most sitcoms, but then the subjects they dealt with were these real things you don't often think about but where there was funny stuff to be found. I loved when they brought on Keith Hernandez and did this whole JFK riff on "The Second Spitter" complete with home movie reenactment, and then Kramer when he found Merv Griffin's old set in the garbage decided to run a talk show in his living room. And George's father was a brilliant character from the manzier to festvus to "do you want a piece of me!" and Jerry's father and the politics of senior retirement communities and how he was run out of office like Nixon. Kramer getting a job, the briss and Kramer objecting to circumcision, the parents insisting "you gotta come see the baby" when in fact the kid was the ugliest baby ever..there is just a ton of great stuff on the show. Sometimes I laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes. Just the idea of Festivus as a holiday still brings a smile to my face. It begins with the airing of grievances and ends with feats of stength as you are forced to wrestle. What other sitcom was ever so absurd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Every single reality POS should be cancelled, never to return to American television again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Friends F- Ross and Rachel. I shipped Joey and Rachel I didnt think Joey's spinoff was that bad. Its too bad it got cancelled before any Friends people could crossover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Joey and Rachel was just wrong on all kinds of levels. Mostly because it was just so out of character. I didn't think "Joey" was that bad but the character just didn't work without the rest of the gang to play off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vote4llama Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 King of the HIll was a better show than The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, Bob's Burgers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 out of character for who and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 Maybe not "out of character" per-say, but it just felt wrong. Joey was supposed to be one of Ross' best friends, and the Rachel/Ross history was SUCH an integral part of the show, that it just felt gross. Not to mention, they just didn't work. Joey wasn't sophisticated enough to date someone like Rachel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lovely_m Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 That 70's Show would have been fine without Ashton Kutcher (despite all the buzz he got). Topher Grace's exit was the one that really hurt the show. No matter how talented Neil Patrick Harris may be, Barney Stinson should have stayed a supporting character. I wish ESPN would quite showing dunks, especially in their top 10. Heroes would have done better if the writers had the cajones to kill off Sylar. Looking back on it now, I wish Corey and Topanga would have been like normal teenagers and dated around instead of being meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 15, 2012 Members Share Posted April 15, 2012 The only reason why Sarah Jessica Parker is hated is because she has the audacity to look her age. If she'd have nipped and tucked her face into oblivion like the broads on Desperate Housewives, then I highly doubt that she'd elicit as much vitriol as she does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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