I was inspired to do this by the UO thread for TV shows at TWOP.

Like here, there is a separate one at TWOP for soaps as well, but I had no idea if there was one on this board for the rest of TV (game shows, sitcoms, reality shows, news, etc.), so I thought I'd start one here. Granted, TWOP is a site completely dedicated to all types of television, so I don't know if picking out UOs here would be as easy, but I think it's worth a shot.

Everything's on the table. Past or present, channels or shows of every genre (except the daytime soaps, obviously).

The UO thread on soaps has only a little bit on primetime soaps, so I guess you can include them here, too. Your call.

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

The show itself was never nominated for Outstanding Comedy Series, was it? It got a Peabody, though, which is

definitely an honor.

Seasons 4 and 5 are my favorites for sure. It just got more and more over the top--and unfortunately, Laurie

probably was the worst offender. I know she actually met up with Don Knotts at one point to take pointers from him in characterization, but she took it TOO far later on.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Roseanne is my favourite sitcom of all time. I even like/tolerate the last season except for that horrible train episode.

The show itself was never nominated for Outstanding Comedy Series, was it? It got a Peabody, though, which is definitely an honor.

It wasn't even nominated, many thought this was because of Roseanne's (and Tom Arnold's) bad reputation in Hollywood. The show was groundbreaking for many reasons, it's a shame that some of Roseanne Barr's personal antics at the time took away from some of it.

We should probably revive the old Roseanne thread in Primetime Oxides, or even start a new one.

I hated what they did with Jackie in the last 2-3-4 years of the show, just too relentlessly bitter, no layers, nothing. I gave up watching in part because of that, as she had been one of my favorite characters.

Not only that, but when she wasn't bitter or disappointed, she took hamming it up to eleven and beyond. She didn't need to do that.

I hated that they made Jackie into a buffoon from season 7 onward. She was always a bit out there, but they made her too stupid and outrageous in the latter years.

Coincidentally, the decline of Jackie's characterization coincided with the decline of the show from season 7 onward, IMO. Season 6 was the last overall GREAT season of the show, IMO.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I hated what they did with Jackie in the last 2-3-4 years of the show, just too relentlessly bitter, no layers, nothing. I gave up watching in part because of that, as she had been one of my favorite characters.

I did too she became so utterly unlikeable as did Roseanne, I don't blame Dan for cheating on Roseanne.

I don't know if it's a UO but Dan & Jackie had some wicked hot chemistry

I never got the appeal of Family Matters, Full House, or any of those other sitcoms. Lori Loughlin and John Stamos were the only actors I ever liked on Full House.

I also never got the appeal of Catherine Hicks. Not even on Ryan's Hope, which my mom used to make me watch with her. Speaking of unpopular opinions there, I LOVED Kathleen Tolan!! She was so bad that she was good. I loved her frozen face, her scowl, and her stuttering. I don't know why so many people hated her.

Jensen Ackles is hot, but I find him smarmy and smug onscreen on Supernatural even when his character isn't being an obnoxious !@#$%^&*]. He's a good actor but he's way too smarmy most of the time.

I find Kyra Sedgwick grating. I can't get past that voice of hers.

Snookie on Jersey Shore is way too trashy. Does she do anything other than get drunk all the time?

I thought the Miranda arc was a good one, overall - I thought it was true to her character and she and Steve were a good couple.

For me the show changed when it became less about Carrie being quirky and screwed up in a fun way and more about how damaged she was and how this was despair (this started around the time of the arc with boring Aiden).

I considered Carrie screwed up in a damaged way when it became clear to me (around Season 2) that she lived, breathed, and shat Big, even though he treated her like the scum beneath his shoe. Don't get me wrong, their imbalanced relationshit made for good TV for me, but I came to the conclusion about Carrie when she kept on trying to find ways to get him to commit to her (or hell, claim her as his forever love - all the more reason why I thought their ending sucked).

Glad to know, though, that I'm not the only one who found Aiden boring as hell. Granted, Carrie did treat him like sh!t, but I always got that love-the-one-you're-with vibe throughout their run.

Another SATC UO: I liked Trey McDougal and do believe that he tried his best to be a good husband to Charlotte. While he was terrible in bed and couldn't remove his mouth from his mother's teat, I thought he was patient in the face of Charlotte's unrealistic expectations about marriage. I would've liked to have seen him just one last time after they ended.

I've hated almost every TV show that has come out in the past 10 years. 2002 was the last good year for primetime TV. IMO.

The ones I didn't hate like Life on Mars for a drama. And, Better With You as a sitcom. Got cancelled after one season.

Edited January 16, 201312 yr by weareclouds

RE SATC, i love that the show i loved that the writers allowed the audience to hate and judge carrie, esp during her affair with Big. They could have made it grand and romantic, but they kept it seedy and dirty. She knew it was wrong, she didnt care. Thats rarely done. Shows seem obsessed with making the leads bad decisions OK.

RE SATC, i love that the show i loved that the writers allowed the audience to hate and judge carrie, esp during her affair with Big. They could have made it grand and romantic, but they kept it seedy and dirty. She knew it was wrong, she didnt care. Thats rarely done. Shows seem obsessed with making the leads bad decisions OK.

Yes, yes, yes! Exactly my thoughts! The fact that they allowed her to make the mistake and didn't try to gloss over it and prop her up was absolutely terrific writing; in the end, she was a woman who knew what she wanted and went for it, consequences be damned.

I don't know about Carrie being damaged, per se; I think, ultimately the problem was that what she wanted was Big and nothing would change that. That's why she couldn't marry, that's why she cheated and pushed Aidan away--Big was the one. And I cannot possibly agree with Aiden being boring lol But even if we do say that her quirkiness/fun was played down and damage played up, I see that as a logical consequence of the show entering a fourth/fifth season... there had to be a reason why she continued to be single, right? Besides, the show became much more serialized and serious.

Loved Miranda's evolution, at least up until Season 6 (Movie 1 was tolerable but Movie 2 was horrific in regards to Miranda... well, and everything else). All the ladies evolved and changed; great character writing.

As far as I'm concerned, those movies don't exist in the SATC universe in my mind. Ditto for whatever they're trying to do on the CW.

Not sure how unpopular this is, but I loved every single minute of Diana Fairgate on KNOTS LANDING. She was absolutely the most realistic teenager I have seen on TV (in my viewing experience, at least), which means she was a loud, annoying, irritable, nonsensical, blabbering mess. And I just loved it. Her relationship with Karen was so multi-layered and complicated; antagonistic, vulnerable, loving and caring at times. Just