I'll go first:

B&B

- While not perfect, the show is currently in the best shape it's been in since 2003.

Y&R

- Genie Francis is terrific as Genevieve Atkinson. I know she wasn't well liked in her first few months on her show, but I'm currently watching June 2011 episodes and I LOVE her campy take on the character, despite the overall wretchedness of the storyline. Although I never saw Francis on GH, so I don't have that to compare it to. I'd love to see her on B&B in a Sally Spectra/Jackie Marone type role.

- Phyllis is one of very few characters to actually flourish under MAB (save for the Lucy custody madness). And of course, I still consider La Stafford to be the best actress in daytime.

- Maura West was AT LEAST as miscast as Diane as Shari Shattuck was as Ashley.

It's odd that DOOL chose to listen to that. The reason it bothers me that Cartooni is doing it is that they said they would not be using social networking that way, and then they turned around and did just that.

It's odd that DOOL chose to listen to that. The reason it bothers me that Cartooni is doing it is that they said they would not be using social networking that way, and then they turned around and did just that.

They are? I think they just write for themselves unless there has been a big cry for rape and almost rape stories or centering a big DiD story around Kate. When are they going to start listening to the cries online for no more Jason, Sonny, and Carly?

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They are? I think they just write for themselves unless there has been a big cry for rape and almost rape stories or centering a big DiD story around Kate. When are they going to start listening to the cries online for no more Jason, Sonny, and Carly?

Easy answer? I think they selectively listen. The cries for no more of the mobettes is not organized like the fanbases are.

If someone thought to organize the antis, that might do more good.

The difference in Cartini writing for themselves and the previous regime's writing for themselves is that the former is actually entertaining. Are they perfect? Not even, but it is a lot better than what the steaming pile of dung that the show was before.

The difference in Cartini writing for themselves and the previous regime's writing for themselves is that the former is actually entertaining. Are they perfect? Not even, but it is a lot better than what the steaming pile of dung that the show was before.

There form is not entertaining and the ratings are a reflection of that

UO on these board but Im sick of all the RC/FV bitching. Its gotten excessive and permeates in so many threads now

There form is not entertaining and the ratings are a reflection of that

It's entertaining to me and that's all that matters to me.

UO on these board but Im sick of all the RC/FV bitching. Its gotten excessive and permeates in so many threads now

I couldn't have said it better, myself, and will also extend this shared opinion to the other corners of the soap internet.

I see more people on various board gushing of Cartooni than anythnig else and when we complain we get people telling us to stop complaining

I see more people on various board gushing of Cartooni than anythnig else and when we complain we get people telling us to stop complaining

People gush about Cartooni? Are they on the payroll?

As Toups said last night:

"Jumping on people who have different opinions, or making smart ass comments towards them, needs to stop. Please just focus the negativity on the show, not on other posters."

I see more people on various board gushing of Cartooni than anythnig else and when we complain we get people telling us to stop complaining

This is the only GH board I post on so I dont know or care what goes on elsewhere. There is like one person no here that gushes about them, so that environment definetly isnt the same here

What you see here is what you'll see on any other soap board, which is why your initial statement about the constant whining is applicable to any other part of the soap internet. However, neither Cartini, nor viewers who appreciate what they bring to the table, care enough to bow down to said complaints. It was true when they oversaw OLTL and it is true now - something that I find refreshing since someone will always find a reason to complain about anything.

Such is life...

Edited April 27, 201213 yr by VirginiaHamilton

People gush about Cartooni? Are they on the payroll?

As Toups said last night:

"Jumping on people who have different opinions, or making smart ass comments towards them, needs to stop. Please just focus the negativity on the show, not on other posters."

He said that? Wow. Looks like I missed some drama. I gotta admit, I rather like being out here on the periphery.

What you see here is what you'll see on any other soap board, which is why your initial statement about the constant whining is applicable to any other part of the soap internet. However, neither Cartini, nor viewers who appreciate what they bring to the table, care enough to bow down to said complaints. It was true when they oversaw OLTL and it is true now - something that I find refreshing since someone will always find a reason to complain about anything.

Such is life...

Sounds like Bob Guza.

UO on these board but Im sick of all the RC/FV bitching. Its gotten excessive and permeates in so many threads now

That's because there's nothing else to talk about. GH itself is hollowed out and RC has made the show into another of his fetishes about mentally ill women going wild and being horny.

Besides, many in the soap press and many fans were declaring GH saved as soon as these two took over. I think they were even praising the material before RC/FV began airing - it was awesome retroactively, apparently. It's not about GH, it's about pushing some image of these two as saviors.

However, neither Cartini, nor viewers who appreciate what they bring to the table, care enough to bow down to said complaints.

I think they care. Carlivati was perpetually shocked that fans ever questioned his work. He just responded in "cute" ways, like having the failed sitcom recast of Jack making a joke about Danielle's age. Or bringing back Powell and Zach to remind us that more than one man had raped Marty. And I also wonder if those air quotes were his idea of mocking people who questioned the hotness of rape.

I think they care. Carlivati was perpetually shocked that fans ever questioned his work. He just responded in "cute" ways, like having the failed sitcom recast of Jack making a joke about Danielle's age. Or bringing back Powell and Zach to remind us that more than one man had raped Marty. And I also wonder if those air quotes were his idea of mocking people who questioned the hotness of rape.

Nope, I think those air quotes were to simply confirm that they didn't care to bow down to any complaints. Their choices then and now pretty much support that.