With the amount of money and promo spent on this show, it should have been rating better than AMC from the start.

It should have, but I don't think that was Frons' or the network's goal. Remember, the purpose was not to outdo AMC, ratings-wise, but to achieve the same ratings, if not better, for less money. There's a difference.

Given the demos, it actually is, isn't that what Errol's article's were all about

Which articles? Granted, it benefits SON to declare The Chew a failure. That plays to this site's base. But I think even SON posted an article months back that showed that The Chew was a decent business decision based on the numbers. Show me someone who is declaring The Chew a business failure.

I'd still like to run into him in a dark alley...

Girl, so. would. I.

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To me what is happening to ABC Daytime is what happened to NBC Daytime a few years ago when they consolidated divisions. Everyone thought DAYS was a goner and it has been renewed twice since that consolidation. I'm not saying that GH will have the same kind of fortune but at least it is something to be considered and not just wishful thinking.

Point taken. On the other hand, I don't think GH viewers are as willing as to hang in with their show as DAYS fans were and are with theirs. That's not a knock on GH fans' loyalty. I just feel like GH fans, like GUIDING LIGHT fans before them, question whether there is anything about GH right now that's worth saving.

I wonder how Burton & Benard feel about this given Frons was their biggest supporter/protector

It should have, but I don't think that was Frons' or the network's goal. Remember, the purpose was not to outdo AMC, ratings-wise, but to achieve the same ratings, if not better, for less money. There's a difference.

ABC put out a press release bragging about The Chew beating AMC. They set that level for themselves, so I just follow what they say.

Kinda too late of course but at least GH may get the ending fans want instead of Frons.

Who cares? Our soaps are dead. Had this happened in 2007 or 2008, I would gave been very excited.

If Jori Peterson was being truthful (ha!) when she said that the highest-rated shows will survive Katie's arrival then GH has a real chance now with Valentini/Carlivati coming in and, most likely, being left pretty much alone to do whatever the the heck want with it.

That SOB gets to leave on his terms? He ruined our shows and he gets to walk away, free and clear? Disgusting. But still, good riddance!

That may just be what they are saying. I remember reading in the NY Post gossip section months ago that ABC wanted him out.

They could be letting him save face too. I firmly believe he was the fall guy for Sweeny & Co

So, GH will be axed in about a month?

I hate to say it, but Frons isn't the only one who made decisions about the soaps. So even though he'll be gone, the people above him are still there. I think they all want out of the soap business, unless perhaps Frank V. can get the budget for GH down pretty far. Then GH can hang on for a little while as the last soap for the network like DOOL seems to be doing for NBC.

I'm more curious what the Chew is doing in demos, overall viewers aren't what counts and ABC suddenly touting that with the Chew must mean demos aren't good LOL. Cause they've NEVER cared about overall viewers only demos

Yeah Fron's final act will likely be to announce GH's departure

This is all playing out exactly as an insider on one of the OLTL boards said back in Feb that ABC's plan was to ultimately turn daytime into a limited syndication model.

GH will probably still be cancelled but at least Frons' won't be there to meddle anymore.

I'm beyond thrilled that he finally got the boot. 10 years too late but I'm still happy.

Just hoping for a nice ending for GH now.