THREE MORE DAYS LEFT !!!!

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by Angela

I honestly wouldn't cry tears for any of them at this point. Everyone on this show is so utterly gutted and unlikable.

I do find that to be true for at least 50% of the characters which is problematic in an already tiny cast

Angela, I agree that JR could definately be recasted. However, it just seems obvious to me (based on the way JR is currently being written) that the executives at PP disagree with us. This is unfortunate, because (as others have pointed out) the loss of JR will essentially make the Chandler family irrelevant.

I hope you're wrong about that but now that you put it like that - I can't rule out the possibility because that's where you go when there's no Adam and if they follow through with either a homicidal or suicidal JR.

I definitely wanted JR in 2.0 and think the character is valuable in 2.0 if you want to keep the families that made AMC for 4 decades. I like JY but I've always wondered where JR could go if he looked like he could pass with some of the older women and looked older, if he was a bit taller and just generally more self-possessed. JY, who has improved so much, has always come off like such a lost kid, and at other times a brat.

Skin, I disagree. When JR is angry or confronting a woman, he definitely gives off Michael Cambias vibes, but when he's not in those moments he looks completely wounded. Even if I'm not getting the why's or the extremes, I can feel he's hurting bad inside. I think VI is an extremely talented actor, but when the writing is one-note for David, I don't personally feel VI adds much to it. When he gets the layers on those rare occasions, he's absolutely brilliant and can kill any actor on the show in his skills. I rarely ever got wounded from Michael Cambias (Will Devry). I know he was, but he always came off to me like a lost cause who was just going to get worst and worst.

This idea that they are trashing JR this way because JY is not coming to PP gives me less confidence that these people at PP know what the hell they are doing. IN what world is an actor bigger than a role. I get that on soaps viewers embrace the actors as much as the character but if soaps thought this way for years we'd have lost a bunch of great characters with history in the process. If we were talking about Erica Kane or long term vets who are really senseless to recast I would get it. JR while JY is great is still a relatively young man and could be a romantic lead for any number of ladies on this show. I said before with a recast it gives them a real chance to alter the character. I never bought JY's JR as a patriarcal type, perhaps another actor in the role could be. THe short sightedness here is disturbing. Sure there are a lot of characters they could bring back but this is basically killing the character off for good. There is no possible way to resurrenct JR and make him any kind of viable character on this show.

I don't think the problem is making JR viable - it could probably be done. The real question is whether what they've done with the character over the years makes him worth carrying over. They've struggled for a long time with what to do with JR - I can't count the number of people they've had him end up harming in some way, and aside from Annie, the character hasn't ever really had a popular relationship. With the depletion of the Chandlers I don't know. I think the family just needs to say goodbye.

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by CarlD2

The next love of his life, Marissa, is now a lesbian.

Please....no one believes that even if that might be what AMC wanted to sell.

JR can scream from the roof top he loves Marissa and I will never buy it for so many reasons. I'll go with wounded ego which makes the most sense.

JR loved one woman and one woman only....I don't like it but that's the the way it is.

ETA: I'm also in the camp of AMC doing this because JY decided to leave. Like I've posted in different threads, JY's comments at the fan events where very much filled with hope for JR getting a happy ending and that's all he wanted for the character, some peace and in my opinion, he seemed to believe that's what he was getting with AH returning.

I would like to believe that AMC loves JY so much they can't immagine the character of JR continuing on...but I think the reality is they are just being spiteful pricks who are shooting themselves in the foot and they don't even realize it.

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by Marley

I feel like most of the characters have very irritating qualities, most of all hypocrisy and self-righteousness. The list goes on and on...Zendall, Rylee, Griffin, Tad, Jake, Erica, Marissa, Jesse, Krystho, David, and even Opal and Bianca at times. That's like literally half the cast. And the ones that are left, such as Randi, Madison, Scott, Brot, Colby, Asher...I mean, how useless and unmemorable are they? (Though I do love some of them haha).

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by alexisfan07

I don't think the problem is making JR viable - it could probably be done. The real question is whether what they've done with the character over the years makes him worth carrying over. They've struggled for a long time with what to do with JR - I can't count the number of people they've had him end up harming in some way, and aside from Annie, the character hasn't ever really had a popular relationship. With the depletion of the Chandlers I don't know. I think the family just needs to say goodbye.

Thats true to a great extent. IMaybe its time to just say the Chandlers have run their course.. I don't care about Colby or Scott to be honest I dont even see either character at this point worth bringing over with no one else on canvas.. Cosgrove does nothing for me in the character not that the prior actor did either . I just see a lot of smirking.

Thats true to a great extent. IMaybe its time to just say the Chandlers have run their course.. I don't care about Colby or Scott to be honest I dont even see either character at this point worth bringing over with no one else on canvas.. Cosgrove does nothing for me in the character not that the prior actor did either . I just see a lot of smirking.

Scott is just a pointless character and always has been. The last time I liked him was when they first aged him, with Shane McDermott.

I do agree that if PP did this deliberately, it's tacky, and unfair, but it's just the exclamation point on over a decade of decline. AMC let the Chandler family die. It died long before David Canary left.

I think we shouldn't count on the Chandler's being a core family on PP's AMC.

Can anyone confirm, didn't Dixie say she saw a female patient at the lab? It doesn't seem like Babe is alive so who else could it be? This is confusing since there seems to be only one patient and most of us think it's gonna be

Stuart

Can anyone confirm, didn't Dixie say she saw a female patient at the lab? It doesn't seem like Babe is alive so who else could it be? This is confusing since there seems to be only one patient and most of us think it's gonna be

Stuart

I have a feeling it was going to be Babe before the new ending and they had already scripted a lot of what we have seen before the change in direction. Now they are saying there is only 1.

I have a feeling it was going to be Babe before the new ending and they had already scripted a lot of what we have seen before the change in direction. Now they are saying there is only 1.

But didn't Griffin have two files just today or the other day? I think maybe the second person's identity will be a cliffhanger for the online version. There was that statement that Esta filmed more as Gillian but that looks disposed of just like Josh's other footage at ConFusion.

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by alexisfan07

I have to agree that I have always found JY's villainous acting choices OTT, and I've wondered if he was actually trying to ape his onscreen dad because I can definitely see a resemblance to DC's blustery style (which, y'know, actually works for DC).

I have to agree that I have always found JY's villainous acting choices OTT, and I've wondered if he was actually trying to ape his onscreen dad because I can definitely see a resemblance to DC's blustery style (which, y'know, actually works for DC).

Just read in the SOD/SOW AMC interview with Jacob that David always told him to put everything into his acting and David acknowledged sometimes it was OTT...but somehow, it always worked. So yes, I think that's exactly what happened. Ironic you brought that up since I just read that haha.

There's two patients. I think everyone is just confused because only one is ready to be revealed. I'd be willing to bet the one to be revealed is

Stuart

and the other one won't be revealed to PV but to the audience. I think that one is

Josh

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Hubbards episode killed this one. So bored.