9 minutes ago, slick jones said:

Well, Lucky is Aiden's father and raised Cameron and Jake until he was dropped. He only gets a mention every few years due to Frank's need to keep creating new characters nobody cares about. Lulu is off in a coma, but there's still Nikolas, Laura and Elizabeth to interact with. As everybody keeps saying, there are characters that could have easily been brought back with connections on the canvas. 

I had forgotten Nik was still on the show to be honest...I guess it shows you how involved I am. 

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

 

Isn't he though? I mean, JJ annoyed me in his second go-around but at the same time ... you have JJ and Vanessa Marcil out there willing and able (but who knows how long they'd even want to stay so I kinda get the hesitation to reach out) but Frank's so laser focused on Roger Howarth. It's truly bizarre. 

 

Frank is also petty AF and I'm so over it.

It seems stupid not to try?  This isnt really relevant, but I work in Retail Talent Management and I see a lot of overqualified/overpaid candidates and you think they are out of your reach, but when you ask they accept all the time.   From what I can tell, they aren't even inquiring or asking.  To me it's seems like putting feelers out to both JJ and VM would just be a smart business decision. 

It's not about good business. Frank has a show he wants to put on and stars who can command more power and loyalty than him or his preferred favorites, or can't be controlled, do not factor into it.

Part of me doesn’t even want VM back because I’m almost certain they’d make Brenda look stupid to prop Queen Carly.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

It's not about good business. Frank has a show he wants to put on and stars who can command more power and loyalty than him or his preferred favorites, or can't be controlled, do not factor into it.

True lol.  But his aversion to popularity is weird. 

1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

Part of me doesn’t even want VM back because I’m almost certain they’d make Brenda look stupid to prop Queen Carly.

Brenda would never look stupid.  THE END.

I hate this mindset.  We absolutely should have had Lucky or Brenda or both back instead of 4 characters for Easton and 3 for Howarth, not to even mention two Ninas.  I feel the same way about Lulu.

 

At this point I would even love different OLTL actors being cast, because what has happened with Easton and Howarth is beyond rediculous.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

True lol.  But his aversion to popularity is weird. 

Brenda would never look stupid.  THE END.

Petty or spoiled?  Absolutely.  But never stupid.  I miss Brenda.

32 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I hate this mindset.  We absolutely should have had Lucky or Brenda or both back instead of 4 characters for Easton and 3 for Howarth, not to even mention two Ninas.  I feel the same way about Lulu.

 

At this point I would even love different OLTL actors being cast, because what has happened with Easton and Howarth is beyond rediculous.

Petty or spoiled?  Absolutely.  But never stupid.  I miss Brenda.

 

All of this

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

It seems stupid not to try?  This isnt really relevant, but I work in Retail Talent Management and I see a lot of overqualified/overpaid candidates and you think they are out of your reach, but when you ask they accept all the time.   From what I can tell, they aren't even inquiring or asking.  To me it's seems like putting feelers out to both JJ and VM would just be a smart business decision. 

 

It does seem stupid. I do think that's happened a lot in the past, producers/writers assume the actor isn't interested or available but in reality they are and would probably jump at an offer.

 

But he only seems to care about lip service to the GH legacy and trying to create his own stars and characters. So many characters have become props over the years. 

47 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I hate this mindset.  We absolutely should have had Lucky or Brenda or both back instead of 4 characters for Easton and 3 for Howarth, not to even mention two Ninas.  I feel the same way about Lulu.

 

At this point I would even love different OLTL actors being cast, because what has happened with Easton and Howarth is beyond rediculous.

Petty or spoiled?  Absolutely.  But never stupid.  I miss Brenda.

Brenda was never stupid.  Someone that made dumb decisions sometimes?  Yes.  But they always portrayed Brenda as at least mildly intelligent lol.  Same with Carly.  She makes stupid choses all the time, but I think she's very savvy still.

14 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

All of this

 

It does seem stupid. I do think that's happened a lot in the past, producers/writers assume the actor isn't interested or available but in reality they are and would probably jump at an offer.

 

But he only seems to care about lip service to the GH legacy and trying to create his own stars and characters. So many characters have become props over the years. 

Frank may have his own personal bias, and whatever.  But I don't know how it wouldn't be great optics to hire JJ or VM back?  He'd be a practical hero if he got either one of those names..

13 minutes ago, carolineg said:

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Brenda was never stupid.  Someone that made dumb decisions sometimes?  Yes.  But they always portrayed Brenda as at least mildly intelligent lol.  Same with Carly.  She makes stupid choses all the time, but I think she's very savvy still.

I think my comment is being taken the wrong way lol. I don’t think Brenda is stupid. I think that FV’s allegiance is clearly with Carly, and I think the show would try to diminish Brenda in comparison to his precious queen, at least storywise. Carly always has to win. Just not something I’d want to see as a longtime Brenda fan.

Edited July 15, 20214 yr by Faulkner

15 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I think my comment is being taken the wrong way lol. I don’t think Brenda is stupid. I think that FV’s allegiance is clearly with Carly, and I think the show would try to diminish Brenda in comparison to his precious queen, at least storywise. Carly always has to win. Just not something I’d want to see as a longtime Brenda fan.

No I for sure didn't take it the wrong way lol.  Brenda has been thrown under the bus for Carly and probably would be again.  But we all know Carly is just a girl who built her life on Brenda's sloppy seconds...🤣

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

No I for sure didn't take it the wrong way lol.  Brenda has been thrown under the bus for Carly and probably would be again.  But we all know Carly is just a girl who built her life on Brenda's sloppy seconds...🤣

Got it. You were just sticking up for your girl! No, she is certainly not stupid. Theoretically she’d be GREAT to have back, but on FV’s GH in 2021? Pass.

2 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Got it. You were just sticking up for your girl! No, she is certainly not stupid. Theoretically she’d be GREAT to have back, but on FV’s GH in 2021? Pass.

Is there anyone you would have back under FV's GH 2021?  My only thought is possibly Robin.

I do wonder if VM can keep up with the pace of daytime for an extended period of time again. That 2010-2011 stint was the epitome of phoning it in and just collecting a paycheck.

I still have nightmares thinking about some of the awkward laughs/crackles she would randomly insert into scenes...

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

Is there anyone you would have back under FV's GH 2021?  My only thought is possibly Robin.

Robin definitely. They sort of made a clown out of Tracy the last time she was back, but I’d still want to see JE on the canvas.

11 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I do wonder if VM can keep up with the pace of daytime for an extended period of time again. That 2010-2011 stint was the epitome of phoning it in and just collecting a paycheck.

I still have nightmares thinking about some of the awkward laughs/crackles she would randomly insert into scenes...

Yes.  It clearly seemed like the pace was too much for her.  But I also think she checked out after the Dante stuff.  She relied a lot on charisma that didn't translate well and weird tics she never used before like the cackle.  But I think she just felt awkward.  Listen, she basically plays different versions of Brenda on every other acting gig she has ever taken so I think she can still play her, but most of the time it was weird.  She was okay with her usual standbys: Jason, Sonny, Jax, Robin.  Like I still felt she had legit chemistry with IR, KMC, and SBu.  MB was hit or miss, but I thought their wedding was very sweet and so well deserved.   I thought she did well with Sonny's kids too.  She was decent with Chad, Lexi, the little kid that played Morgan and Molly (who's name is totally escaping me right now).

10 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Robin definitely. They sort of made a clown out of Tracy the last time she was back, but I’d still want to see JE on the canvas.

Tracy is a yes for me too.  And possibly Lois.  They just need a good recast.  I wish LLC had taken on that role, but I guess they offered her a Brenda recast before Olivia lol....That would have been something

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