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Just now, Spin865 said:

Has this footage been seen on Youtube before?

Thanks. It was posted here yesterday. The person who uploaded it tends to upload material, delete, and then reupload, so it's been up a few times.

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19 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

That would have been a good angle to explore but Monty and the writer's were probably ignorant or didn't care.

It would have been a great angle to play, especially since Lee and Scotty were often at odds then. Would have been a good story to play out with an older Serena too, only now the medicine and public stigma is less so she would get help successfully.

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21 hours ago, janea4old said:

I was battling depression myself and realized that I couldn't handle Meg's emotions because it sent me spiraling further. I had to take a break from GH for a while then because Meg was so intense.

It is interesting how much the stories we consume can exacerbate these issues when you are in the thick of it. I am sorry to see you had to face them, but good for you for getting the tools to face it better. It’s not easy.

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Wow, this is the first time I've seen footage of Elizabeth MacRae on GH, and in color too! She's great!

Lee was such an important character to the show, but you'd never know it watching from the mid-80s on.

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6 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

Lee was such an important character to the show, but you'd never know it watching from the mid-80s on.

It’s kind of fascinating that of the major characters left from earlier times- Steve, Audrey, Jessie, Lee, and maybe squeeze in Lesley- they had so much turmoil and trauma in their heyday that there wasn’t much of a next generation to help keep them viable. Laura is gone by the mid 80’s, and Lesley has become a surrogate mother to several characters, none of them lasting much past her death except perennial supporting player Amy. Steve and Audrey have Tom, and Monty stopped recasting so no Jeff to help out. Jessie has no children and also has professional surrogates like Bobbie and Amy, but that’s not the same. And Scotty coming and going several times ends up hurting Lee.

Compare all of them to the vitality of Edward and Lila around the same time with family drama and Edward’s scheming to keep them occupied. While I liked the first adult Tom Hardy, but he was never leading man material, and his stories suffered from that and several Simones in a relatively short amount of time. Even Tom’s adult return was late 80’s, no teen stories for him. Audrey’s surrogate Anne and that kid were long gone (and also not successful). It was poor planning on the earlier writers for the future of those characters and the show.

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10 hours ago, titan1978 said:

It’s kind of fascinating that of the major characters left from earlier times- Steve, Audrey, Jessie, Lee, and maybe squeeze in Lesley- they had so much turmoil and trauma in their heyday that there wasn’t much of a next generation to help keep them viable. Laura is gone by the mid 80’s, and Lesley has become a surrogate mother to several characters, none of them lasting much past her death except perennial supporting player Amy. Steve and Audrey have Tom, and Monty stopped recasting so no Jeff to help out. Jessie has no children and also has professional surrogates like Bobbie and Amy, but that’s not the same. And Scotty coming and going several times ends up hurting Lee.

Compare all of them to the vitality of Edward and Lila around the same time with family drama and Edward’s scheming to keep them occupied. While I liked the first adult Tom Hardy, but he was never leading man material, and his stories suffered from that and several Simones in a relatively short amount of time. Even Tom’s adult return was late 80’s, no teen stories for him. Audrey’s surrogate Anne and that kid were long gone (and also not successful). It was poor planning on the earlier writers for the future of those characters and the show.

They'd bring in stepkids for Jessie and then write them out without doing anything with them (or just have them be wicked and die).

Diana was treated as Jessie Jr, but she was given a poor recast and dead by the early '80s.

And now Liz, probably the closest in modern GH to those characters, has also had all her kids written out and minimized, suggesting little future for any of them on the canvas. Given that Monty seemed to have issues with many of those characters the same way TPTB over the last 15 or more years have with Liz, I guess you can't say the show is completely removed from its past...

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I went back and watched at those late 60's GH episodes today. Phil Brewer (Martin West) was in the episode where Jessie is on trial for murder. I remember reading that they later killed him off in the mid 70's in a big murder mystery and Jessie was found holding his body. How many times did Jessie get accused of murder during her run? Later her character was pretty much wallpaper in the background after Monty took over.

Martin West looked similar to Kevin Tighe (from Emergency). Tighe could have been a recast at some point if Phil had been brought back from the dead.

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17 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

They'd bring in stepkids for Jessie and then write them out without doing anything with them (or just have them be wicked and die).

Diana was treated as Jessie Jr, but she was given a poor recast and dead by the early '80s.

And now Liz, probably the closest in modern GH to those characters, has also had all her kids written out and minimized, suggesting little future for any of them on the canvas. Given that Monty seemed to have issues with many of those characters the same way TPTB over the last 15 or more years have with Liz, I guess you can't say the show is completely removed from its past...

The way they treat Liz is terrible. And although Monty deserves plenty of blame for marginalizing those characters, she inherited people that TPTB before her ran through the wringer and didn’t set up for futures.

It’s not her fault Lesley couldn’t have more kids, that Scotty didn’t have a sibling, that Jessie had no surviving children, and that Steve and Audrey didn’t get to have more kids beyond Steve adopting Tommy. When you take that all together they really didn’t prepare their leads for aging and a future like other shows did. And nobody had the Eileen Fulton clause to not make them grandparents for a long time as an excuse.

If anything she clearly did try to set Lesley up with more family with Amy, Blackie and Mike. She could have recast Jeff, but by that point she didn’t really do that anymore in her first run. Heather was only recast because Mary O’Brien wouldn’t return to wrap up the Steven Lars story. Robin Mattson was there to kill Diana and wrap that story up. But Monty liked her and they decided to change course.

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1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Heather was only recast because Mary O’Brien wouldn’t return to wrap up the Steven Lars story. Robin Mattson was there to kill Diana and wrap that story up. But Monty liked her and they decided to change course.

IDK why, but Mary O'Brien grates on my nerves, lol.

1 hour ago, SoapDope78 said:

Tighe could have been a recast at some point if Phil had been brought back from the dead.

I thought Kevin Tighe would've made a good recast for ATWT's Dr. Bob Hughes. (Yes, I wanted to fire Don Hastings. Sue me.)

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20 minutes ago, Khan said:

IDK why, but Mary O'Brien grates on my nerves, lol.

I thought Kevin Tighe would've made a good recast for ATWT's Dr. Bob Hughes. (Yes, I wanted to fire Don Hastings. Sue me.)

Fire Don Hastings??? Please explain!

GH was never a family based show in the 60's and early 70's. The arrival of the Webber's changed that somewhat, but the Quartermaines were really the first family with parents and children. That was part of the move away from the hospital as the centre of everything.

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